The 100-Second Connection Protocol | Patrick Cowden

I've been tasked to build a machine where every human being in the world can truly feel seen, heard, and valued.

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Hello, and welcome to your ultimate life.

Not the show, your ultimate life.

The opportunity to create a life of purpose, prosperity, and joy.

Because you said so, because you want to, because you have your thumb on the throttle.

And I'm welcoming today a special guest, Patrick Crowden from Berlin, Germany.

Patrick, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Kellen.

I'm glad to be here.

It's a pleasure.

So I'm excited.

And I don't do an intro to guests just because it all comes out in the interview.

So what I'd like you to do is, without any semblance of modesty at all, I'd like you to examine your life right now and tell the listeners, what does Patrick do on purpose to add good to the world?

Yeah, that's a wonderful question to get started on.

You know, they call me an architect, Like a human interaction architect.

Oh, I love that human hia.

You should acronym and ize that and use it.

Hia.

Human interaction architect.

Go for it.

Haya.

Haya.

I'm a higher right, so, you know, I'm a German American, Japanese engineer.

And so I've been tasked build a machine where every human being in the world can truly feel seen, heard, and valued every moment of their existence.

So I'm going to.

I'm building that, I would guess, so that we can all feel touched, uplifted, and transcend our current state into a place of joy.

Truly, I did, you know, as you say, those words, they, like, have a visceral impact on me.

Every human being seen, heard, valued.

You know, you see pictures, floods that took place in Texas a few weeks ago and wars that are going on in different places, and we've got a Ukrainian refugee family that has been living with us for three years now, since June of 22, my mother and daughter.

And you look at the conflicts and the death and the destruction, and then you juxtapose that with every human being seen, heard, and valued.

The scope of that statement is just.

It rattles loud enough to shake the black hole at the middle of the milky Way.

You know, I.

You know, I. I mean, that's how I experience that right now.

Like, what started this idea for you?

Because that's a colossal undertaking and I am absolutely all in.

Amen.

I appreciate that.

You know, so 18 years ago when I had that moment, that juxtaposition of the universe where the black hole trembled and sent me a note, right?

And.

But I did build a 42 year plan because I said, damn, that's a big deal.

That's going to take a while.

The 42 years, was that in connection with Isaac Asimov's that the answer to everything is 42, or that was just something else?

Just part of it.

I happened to be 42 years at the time and I had been serving the God of profit, destroying the goddamn planet, making sure no one was seen, heard or valued every single day of their fucking life.

And I said, wait a minute, we're squeezing the lemon.

We're squeezing humanity out.

I'm part of the machine that's just done that.

And I realized, oh shit, everyone in the world is going to copy high tech and we're going to squeeze humanity out of humanity.

And I felt something needs to change.

And being German Germanic, I sat down with a couple friends and we did a 42 year plan of everything that needs to happen for that to even become imaginable, much less possible.

And we're 18 years in and we're good news for the planet we're on plan, it's going to work.

You've been saved.

You just don't realize it yet.

I love that.

So what I'd like to do is start there.

Because my own personal journey started in 2007 with a divine intervention in August this month, 18 years ago right now.

But this show isn't about me.

So nobody falls up that mountain.

So tell me what was going on 18 years ago that, that began this, this cosmic earthquake.

Well, we're both fortunate that about the same time these things hit us.

Yours has a name, her name is Joy.

Mine has a name, her name is Tang.

All right, so tell me about this.

You know, we were in trouble back then.

We were, we were following a route to self destruction one way or another.

And that route, we were on a big chunk of humanity and the world was on that path, especially in big corporations and big companies.

And you know, I was fortunate.

I grew up in the military.

My dad in the military drill Sergeant Command.

Sergeant Major.

He turns 80 now.

I still call him Sergeant Major.

Right.

Wow.

And that's it.

That, that had an influence on my life.

And, and after that, 42 years of high tech, I just looked at the numbers.

Damn.

I've been doing this for 42 years.

Wait a minute.

When I was 42, I did a 42 year plan that gets me to 84.

So, so all these things start popping together.

And probably the reason I worked on three continents in 20 some different jobs at a dozen blue chip companies, working myself up from an aircraft refueling operator to run in the biggest markets outside the United States for Dell Computer or for Hitachi outside of Japan.

And, and kicking it, you know, kicking it and killing it and figuring it out and doing things, but it just was never enough.

It just wasn't.

It just doesn't give you what, what you were looking for truly in life.

Right.

You know, I did try to take care of people.

I felt, I felt the people part calling at me the whole time.

But the companies and the corporations and Milton Friedman were telling me people don't matter, only profit.

Shut the up.

You're not paid to, you know, to think about, execute, right?

And I was thinking, something's wrong about this machine because I'm losing it.

I'm, I'm, you know, getting divorced multiple times.

I'm losing everything that's valuable to me.

I'm, I'm seeing people die at work from overwork, you know, and, and we're killing them.

Something's not right.

And I think I'm glad the calling came.

I'm glad we got started and I'm glad we built a, we built this thing, we call it warm space.

We built something that makes a difference, right?

And it, and it works and it's changing things and it's giving us the opportunity to breathe, to slow down, to breathe, to be present, to be there in every single meeting, every single day, everywhere in the world, you know, so that's the deal.

It is a massive deal.

What was the core of the epiphany?

Like, what happened to, as much as you want to describe, I mean, you know, level of disclosure is up to you.

But what happened?

Was it event, was it a series of events?

Was it gradual but steep?

Was it sudden, like falling off a cliff, like what caused.

And you said you were people to a degree, people oriented before, and that's fine, but something changed significantly because before you were grinding and producing and creating and you said, I'm done with this treadmill, I'm going to go do something else.

Not with less passion, in fact, with more, because now it's purpose driven.

So tell me as much as you'd like to, about what happened and the reason I want you to is because my experience is every single person, every one of you listening right now.

You Feel the spiritual nudges.

You ignore them.

You pretend you can't do them.

You pretend it's not your season.

You stack up reasons not to.

And, you know, we've all done that until you stop.

And I want to know what made you stop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you, Kellen.

Yeah.

It's one of those moments where, you know, the moments in your life, you know, change things.

I had a lot of those because I had a rough and crazy life.

And a lot of the listeners out there, you know, you've had rough and crazy lives, you know, Right.

I. I woke up naked in a gutter with a needle in my arm when I was a young person.

And I had to make a choice, am I going to get up and live or not?

You know, so that's a life changing event for sure.

Right.

And for about 20 years, 25 years after that, after, you know, failing miserably over and over and over again, you know, Right.

When it gets really good, I had this tendency to self destruct, and that came from trauma that I had as a little kid, Sergeant command, sergeant Major, you know, whooping on his son.

Right.

So that trauma had a lot of influence on a big part of my life.

And things kept falling apart, but I would always get up and figure it out and go back, serve the beast, you know, be more successful, break it, fail miserably, fall down, get back up, do it again.

And the fifth time that happened in my life, you know, and I'm 42 years old at the time, it took me down like never before.

And I was down and my wife and daughter were gone.

Lost my family again, my house, my job, all by myself.

And it got real dark.

I gotta tell you, I got to a point where the first time in my life, even though I'd been through the toughest things ever, I lost myself for the first time.

And in that moment of darkness, I awoke.

I awoke.

The light came in, the calling came, the voice came.

It says it's on you now to go figure it out.

Away where no one ever feels this way again in the world.

And I stood up, I said, oh, I got to go figure it out.

I said, oh, the God didn't tell me what the am I supposed to figure out?

And God, God don't call you second time, right?

So I stood up and.

And I knew.

And then I started.

And I haven't.

I haven't stopped since.

I love.

I. I just go figure it out.

So nobody feels like this.

It wasn't.

Go, go figure this out.

So you quit Doing this, Patrick, it was, go figure it out so others don't feel like that.

One of the things I notice over and over again from people is that when they have these moments, whether they're in the gutter or, you know, whatever, anybody's moment or moments of epiphany is when they start to respond, there always arises with that growth, the yearning to help others.

I've asked this question a million times to people, so you fixed, you cool.

Why didn't you stop there?

Like, why did you suddenly feel like you go ahead to, you're okay now, you got it handled.

Why?

And the answer is universal.

It's a calling.

It's a universal thing because we are who we are.

We came from the same God, divinity.

We are that.

And we're built literally physically, neurotransmitters and all to love and serve.

And I'm sure there's a spiritual analog to that in the spirit being, to neurotransmitters.

We just don't have the names.

So that's interesting that the direction was.

So nobody feels like that.

What did you start with?

I mean, obviously when you hit that kind of low, there's some personal work that has to be done, depending on what it is.

Sobriety, financial things, whatever.

What.

What were your first steps in the first year or two to start this new direction?

I started with questions like, wow, you know, so what is the source of all things?

You know, what it.

What is the true source of success?

I had definitely been on the wrong path.

That wasn't working out so well, right?

I got the call in, I got to figure it out for all of you.

Goddamn humanity.

So I better ask some fundament fundamental questions about what does.

What is humanity and what is fulfillment and what is the source and all that, you know.

So for six years I journeyed through the world of philosophy and Western process and science.

And I just kept asking question, okay, I need to figure this out.

So I got to build a machine.

I got 42 years, but I got to understand deeply what truly makes us who we are, what the source of everything is that makes us who we are, right?

And that was a six year journey listening to, you know, Eastern philosophies and Western science.

I even started a school at my own house, like a Little Academy with 85 people from around the world.

For three years, some of them had spent their whole life in monasteries in India.

And they just gathered.

I don't know how the hell they came together, but they kept showing up year by year by year.

Not all 85.

For three years, it was cohorts every year, 25, 30 people.

Right.

And they were willing to go after the source, you know, and then after six years, we found the source.

You know, we started celebrating.

It was fucking crazy talk about that.

Because, you know, everybody, it shies away from talking deeply about spirituality.

And they say, well, God, the universe, they give it all kinds of names.

When people do that, I ask them just quickly, what do you call it in your private moments?

And I invite them to talk in that language.

So in that journey of discovering who we are, what we're about, and all that sort of stuff, what did you discover?

And it doesn't have to be perfect, doesn't have to be.

Right.

It's what you guys landed on.

So what is source and who are we?

There you go.

Right.

So, you know, so when we started, part of the source question was the source of success.

Because I grew up in the success machine.

Right.

Of course.

What's success?

Right.

And performance.

Oh, high performance.

Yeah.

What's, you know, and.

But spirituality, they go deeper than that.

They go deeper to the source, you know, who we really are and why we're here and what makes a difference and what really ignites human spirit more than anything else in the universe.

And then we discovered that.

So I want you to answer those questions.

It's fun to postulate those.

And this is the gospel according to Patrick.

And that's fine, but I want to hear it.

That's it.

So we found, you know, nothing surprising for a lot of people say, why did you go six years to find that simple truth?

But the simple truth we found is that the source of all things is kindness.

Okay, so let that sink in, everybody.

The source, according to Patrick and his people that has provided him the impetus for this 42 year journey is kindness.

I love that.

Keep going.

Yes.

And that we only exist through the eyes of others.

So the biggest gift we can give another human being is to see them truly in their fullest potential and their fullest beauty and to share that with them when we're with them.

Not to talk about the weather or the Dodgers or the war in Ukraine, but to acknowledge them, to honor them, to be present with them and to share the beauty that they shine with, regardless of who they are, what they've just done.

This could happen in a prison, this could happen in the military.

This could happen in a sports team.

This could happen home with your child.

It could happen at church.

But to be truly present and to be truly giving them the gift of kindness is the source that when it's touched, the spirits release joy and energy for us.

When we celebrate touching the spirit that connects us.

So that.

That was kind of realization that that that would make a difference.

And then a friend of mine, we're.

Celebrating before the friend.

I want to hold before the friend.

So we're going to do that right now because right this minute, I want to acknowledge Patrick Crowden.

I want to see you as the journeyer through five or maybe more dark nights of the soul who didn't quit, who wouldn't quit, who felt and decided to be true to the calling of his being, who has identified not only kindness as the energy, the engine, but has identified, correctly, the awesome power of seeing each other without agenda, without judgment, and of choosing to see and acknowledge that divine spark, that holiness, that capability underneath, whatever else is happening.

And so I see you.

I honor that.

I love that.

And all that we talk about after this moment is in that context of your unending passion to create, seen, heard, and cared about for people with your prodigious talent and gear, software, whatever you develop as a tool.

But the driver is that kindness and the acknowledgment of a truth, that to truly see another person is such a, perhaps the most important gift and offering.

And so I offer that here, now to you.

Thank you.

Deeply.

I can feel the energy of your truth, and you're seeing me and honoring me in return.

You know, every time I hear your voice, the resonance of that, the vibration of that, the depth of that, it just rips the wisdom that you've accrued through your life, through 18 years of joy.

For sure, everything before that is part of the spectrum.

But I love how you give and shine the light onto those that are your guests, and by doing so, honor them deeply with the reflection of their beauty in return.

And I've never seen someone do it in such a beautiful and eloquent manner as you do.

So thank you.

Oh, how fuzzy.

Thank you.

Let's go back, comma.

You were telling me about your friend.

Yeah.

So we found a source.

We thought it was kind of cool.

It's a lot of effort.

My wife still hates me for the, you know, three years of people living in our house on the weekends.

You know, she doesn't hate you.

She treasures every thing of who you are because through that, you have seen her and brought her the opportunity to have that experience.

So, anyway, keep going.

Got me blushing now.

I got me blushing.

I know that's true.

We love them so much.

She.

She changed my life.

She Saved me.

So I appreciate that a whole lot.

I hope that Tang and Joy can meet someday.

And so we're celebrating.

And my one friend that was there from the beginning, one of the first friends, I mean, a coincidence is the first 42 years of my life.

I never had a friend, you know, And I finally made friends because I. I made peace with myself.

And he's one of my first buddies, and he's celebrating with us.

And his name is Erfried, which is a very German name.

It means he who brings peace, which is a beautiful name.

And we're jumping around.

Every says, patrick, Patrick.

I go, every what?

Yeah, we.

We found the source.

I said, yeah, bro.

That's why we're celebrating.

Celebrate, bro.

He goes, but Patrick.

But I said, what?

You button me, man.

We celebrate.

And it took six years.

We got the source.

He says, but Patrick, how do we turn it on?

I said, oh, that's another three years to figure that out.

So, yeah, it wasn't about just finding the source.

The question was, because a lot of people know the source.

A lot of people preach it.

A lot of gurus guru it.

A lot of people talk about it, A lot of people write books about it.

But if you ask them, okay, I got this thing on trust.

You're the professor, you wrote the book on trust.

So what's the trust process?

Three steps in 30 seconds.

How do you do actually turn trust on instantly?

And the answer is they all will say it takes a long time and there's a lot of steps.

It just.

It'll happen.

And that's just not good enough, bro.

Right.

If we want to turn on being seen and heard, it's got to be a process that we can turn on.

So we, we went to luck, and guess what?

We found the on switch.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

I love this sequential stuff.

So kindness.

And you related it to trust, and you're looking for the on switch, and you've given some parameters.

It has to be simple.

It has to be doable.

Even if it's hard.

Maybe people not willing to do it because it might require casting aside old beliefs or ideas and all kinds of other things.

But there is a way.

And so you're going to tell us what that is?

Yes, yes, there is a way.

And.

And we had to find a vehicle that is accessible to everyone in the world.

Right.

Meditation isn't accessible to everybody in the world.

Or yoga or silent retreats in a monastery for 17 days.

Okay.

And I grew up in corporate world, and the corporations own the planet.

They're Driving the future.

They're, they're killing us.

So whatever we find has to be so small, so simple, we can insert it into the daily routine of every person and every company around the world.

So we gotta, we gotta, we gotta make it small.

And so we said, you know what?

We're going to discover conversational protocols that activate the human spirit at scale instantly.

And if we can do that, establish connection, instant connection.

Connection leads to trust, and trust leads to the ability collectively to do anything together that we can imagine.

That's absolutely true.

Let's underline that loudly and truly right now.

Because, you know, Einstein said, you can't solve a problem at the same level of thinking that created it.

And all the problems that we have in the world come somewhere from either lack of understanding or lack of trust.

And so if you say conversational protocols might sound daunting because it has some big words in it, but I bet it's just some simple practices about how we communicate, maybe how we prepare to communicate what we believe and think.

I don't know.

But some, some simple practices that will allow you to establish first connection, which leads to trust, which leads to everything.

Amen.

You know, and, and, and we did discover a really simple protocol.

I think the shortest one we've got is maybe 10 words long in a process that takes 100 seconds.

And we worked with 30 different institutions around the world.

You know, we learned from the guys in my house, and then we went out and validated and verified and talked to the smartest people in the world.

You know, and we've got professors, they wrote book, a book about it.

They call it Beyond Leadership.

Right?

They wrote a book about it.

And they, they said, you've discovered these protocols and they work 100 of the time.

They never fail because they're conversational based.

They work in any language, any culture, at any age.

When you've learned to talk, which is about three years old, Right.

And I was just recently at a school where the, where the people were asking, hey, Patrick, can we, can we use this in the classes for the kids?

And the answer is yes, you could.

And we would learn that.

Please do, please do.

Right, right.

Because it's the, the, you know, the, the three little steps I'm gonna tell you and you're gonna go, you're gonna know it because you live it and you breathe it.

I know you do.

And I'll tell you the three little steps that we built into this tiny piece of tech.

We call it relational intelligence.

It's really kind of dumb that these Three simple steps are so powerful, but we've forgotten these three steps.

So when we meet and engage, the three things we do first is we breathe.

And I don't mean meditate.

I mean we just breathe.

Just two breaths.

Take a breath.

And then we share appreciation.

And then we share gratitude.

And we go both ways.

If there's two of us.

If there's three of us, we go three ways.

If there's five of us, we go five ways.

We breathe together, each of us share appreciation.

And we'd be grateful.

And if we can.

Tell me the difference, I want you to tell me the if in a minute someone's going to feel like appreciation and gratitude are not exactly the same, but pretty close.

So give me an example of appreciation versus gratitude.

So the distinction, because breathing is easy.

Got it.

Breathe together.

Then what is sharing appreciation look like?

Well, let's back up a step and I'll tell you the difference between a thank you being grateful and appreciation.

Because those are like the three layers.

Okay?

So, honey, thank you for doing the dishes today.

That's.

That's being thankful to someone for doing something.

Honey, I'm grateful for what you bring to the family every day.

I'm grateful.

And honey, I appreciate your deep love, admiration, and support that you give every moment of your life deeply.

I appreciate that.

So those are the three layers.

Appreciation is when you shine the light back.

You don't just acknowledge thank you or I'm grateful for you.

I'm going to appreciate you back and I'm going to embellish that appreciation with the beauty I truly see.

And that's when you are truly seen.

So that's the steps.

Thank you is the smaller one.

Gratitude is that you are experiencing gratitude for something they did.

And the appreciation is a larger, more comprehensive acknowledgement of something that they are.

Well said.

Yes.

Good, Good.

Well, I just want that to be clear because I think people don't know that, and they might not unless you help them.

So thank you for teaching.

Yes, thank you.

And here's the cool part, right?

So we went into a factory two years ago with that little protocol.

And these factory workers, they don't know the difference between thankfulness and gratitude and appreciation.

Most of them ain't ever had a day of appreciation in their lives up in the north of England, working in a factory that takes dirt and turns it into tile.

Minimum wage.

They got no teeth, they got no education.

You try to tell them that they don't know what.

What this is, but the one thing they all understand is respect.

And when we stand together and take the time to listen to each other deeply and appreciate in whatever manner we can, what we just heard, and then be thankful at the end that we took the time before we went out into the factory, then we can learn how to do that.

If we did it at the front of every shift, in the back of every shift, we'd start to learn.

Why?

Because it's a natural human trait.

We're a social being.

We were born genetically for millions of years to know how to connect.

And connect means to pay attention peacefully, to give goodness to that other person as a gift.

Because we are going to connect.

We're going to do something together.

And that deep, deep seated capability is triggered through that first moment of breath.

We activate that part of our system, the limbic system, to not go into fight or flight.

Through that breath, it relaxes.

And in that relaxation, connection can ensue.

And a connection comes through kindness.

An act of kindness is to be together, to listen respectfully to each other, to share goodness with the others, and to be grateful.

So those five acts of kindness are hidden in that short protocol.

And after the third or fourth time of doing that, you can be the meanest, cruelest, stupidest person that you've ever met.

Yourself is going to soften you down after the third or fourth time with one or two others when you start receiving that kindness.

Because cruelty will crumble in the face.

Of compassion 100% of the time.

You can't love and hate at the same time.

Cruelty will crumble in the face of compassion.

And I like that.

That's alliterative.

Cruelty crumbles in the face of compassion.

So save it, own it, write it on your forehead.

And if somebody else doesn't do it, you get to start.

I don't mean you, Patrick, I mean you listeners, because it's in your hands.

So this is wonderful, both teaching and exploration.

So tell us about what you.

So you went into the factory or any place and you taught them to do this.

And so just do people gather in groups of two or three or four at the beginning of the shift and have these expressions or what did you have them do?

Yeah, so we, we built a piece of tech to help them with that because it's really hard to train.

You know, it's really hard to think yourself into a new way of behaving, but it's really easy to behave yourself into a new way of thinking.

Ooh, I love that.

So you built something that gave the prompts or the direction so they didn't have to think about it, because when we think all the old patterns and things that are just habitual, you know, they fly up and take control.

So tell us about this tech and tell us about the prompts to help people create, you know, thankfulness, gratitude and appreciation and the breathing.

Yes, sir.

So in the factory, they got, you know, they wear helmets and they got these yellow vests like you see at the airports and in construction sites.

And the supervisors on their yellow vest, they've got a QR code at the top of their yellow vest, right?

And then when the guys come in for early shift at 4am, they take their phones out, they scan that QR code, right?

And it lights up the instructions for what they're going to do.

Now, on, on Kellen's phone it says find Patrick.

On Patrick phone, it says find Kellen.

And we walk over to each other and then it pops up the next step with a chime and it tells us what to do.

Actually, I don't know if you want to do this during your, during the podcast here, but if you took your phone out and scanned this QR code, you and me could do what the workers in the factory do.

And then you'd go, holy Joe.

They just did those three steps.

They breathed together, they shared appreciation together, and they were grateful together.

And we both are going to feel a whole lot better after 100 seconds of that.

And because it's only 100 seconds, you can afford to stick it the front and back of every shift because it reduces accidents by 57%, absenteeism by 82% and increases productivity and product quality by 37% for just 100 seconds of kindness at the front and back of your shifts, you dumb shits.

So what is that?

I believe you and I don't doubt that we do it.

And I don't.

I'd love to do it, but I don't.

I don't think I want to.

I don't think I want to just because I don't want to worry about the logistics because my phone's running a timer and stuff.

But what I want to do is those statistics are staggering.

Like 50% increase in this 80%.

It's like, ah, of course we'll do it.

Anything.

So.

And I'm, I know you've got the measurables to do that to, to show that and to do it.

What happened?

I mean, in the factory you notice those things and so they have that kind of stuff installed in all their factories, or is it in pilot?

Like how fast is this spreading?

And that's very simple.

Scan a QR code, go do some stuff for two minutes and have a great day.

And then have a great day.

It doesn't become a platitude anymore.

It becomes a truth of creation.

I like how you said that.

Yes, it becomes a truth of creation.

So yeah, so that, that, that customer piloted with us to help build that tech.

Because it's easy to build tech that's on video.

Yeah.

But to build, build tech that can do that in a factory where they work, take dirt and make brick, that's a lot harder to do.

Yeah.

And we did, and it did work really well.

But that or that company, their revenue crashed by 39% year on year, so they effectively no longer exist as a company.

Had nothing to do with our pilot.

Those factories that were using it were in a good shape and in a good place.

But we didn't continue after the pilot for those reasons.

But we took the learnings on our next customers.

One of them is called H.P.

hewlett Packard.

Another one is a Japanese company in Japan right now.

And, and they're using it.

The reason they love it is because, you know, having the tech and the process that can insert into your business is one.

But it has to insert.

So how do you insert that?

You know, so we have a piece of software that goes into your calendars, takes all the zoom codes out and all the Microsoft Team comes out and it transforms every meeting from an old cold mechanical meeting into a new warm and human meeting at a touch of a button.

So that's what we've been building and developing over the last 18 months.

And now we've started to bring it to the world and I'm a busy guy now.

I've got schools asking about can we do this with kids?

I've got musicians in LA saying can I take this to the studio?

I've got the heads of football in Africa asking can we start doing this with football players in our professional teams?

And then I've got a two star general asking what does this do when we start using it with soldiers?

And I've got, and all it takes is a phone.

It takes that each person has a phone, it takes a QR code that the leader that they have to scan and then a willingness to follow the instructions for two minutes exactly.

That's it.

And I love the fact I didn't know that.

Now I've had the opportunity to have a meeting with someone that was, that was using earlier version of your software several months ago.

And maybe that's the Current one, I don't know.

And to experience some of the direction about how to talk to, how to interact with that, the people on the call.

And it was interesting and it was fun.

So I have had a personal experience with it.

So you're deploying this and people are buying it, accepting it, using it.

And as you said, you're a busy guy now.

What's the rest of the year look like for you?

Patrick?

Thank you.

I want to spend as much time as I can with my little kid.

I've got grown up kids that are at the house.

So I got a nine year old, his mom is from Vietnam and he does look like Bruce Lee, this little guy.

So hey, I want to spend as much time with him as I can.

And then secondly, yeah, just go out and put this in the world for the next 24 years.

I've got 24 years left in the plan.

We're by far not done.

We're right at the front of this now because we do have to bring it to the schools, the musicians, the sports clubs, the companies, you know, so that's, that's where I'm gonna spend my time.

Wherever the customers call, we go demonstrate, we show them how to insert it into their business.

We do have to find the courageous few that still care about people and that are willing to allocate that time.

Those two minutes in every meeting.

We've got some flows that take longer, you know, 12 minutes to really connect.

You know, you can't do everything in the fast lane.

You got to do some things in the, in the short, you know, not so fast lane and.

Yeah, and help, help these people stand it up.

It's a new model, right.

So it's really a transformational change to how they operate and that's a big step and we want to help them every step of the way.

And once you've got the first 10, 15, 20 companies in the world that are using it, it's going to go really, really fast.

Well, if you've got a big one like hp, even if they're not fully rolled out a pilot, you're going to have some, some big guns behind it.

And then there's going to be some me toos wanting to jump on if they see some, and they will see some stuff.

So tell everybody here right now where to find it, how to find more.

Patrick, headache.

Because we've talked about it and I want you to tell as much as you want to about inviting or about where to go, how to follow you personally or about this piece of simple technology that you have that invites us to return.

It's funny technology to invite us to return to our humanity.

But anyway, so go ahead and tell us.

Yeah, it's kind of funny because the answers to our future lie in our distance past and are accessible now in the present.

Right?

So that's the story.

Warmspace IO as you get a feel for what warm space is all about, you find me on LinkedIn, you know, Patrick Cowden on LinkedIn, and you'll have that information.

Patrick Cowden.

I thought C O W D E N I somehow I had an R in there.

Cowden.

I'm sorry?

Patrick Cowden.

You rolled it so nice.

It sounded a lot better than Cowden for me, so I didn't say nothing.

It was fine.

I thought it has CRO.

Croton.

Cowden.

I am sorry.

With a name like Kellen Flukegar, you pay attention to that stuff.

Patrick Cowden.

Anyway, Patrick Cowden on LinkedIn, Warmspace IO, what else?

And that's a starting point.

If you're interested, especially if you're.

Our focus is on companies and corporations especially.

And if you're interested, we've got a click and click and go demonstration we can do for folks.

And once they see it the first time, once they experience it the first time, they'll want to use it.

And most of the companies, we do what's called proof of concept.

We kind of show you at scale how that works in your company and.

And then you're going to be off to the races because those that get it, they go, damn it.

I always knew something like this had to exist, but no one ever came and said so.

And now I've got it.

I know I can do both for success.

I can take care of my business, but most important, I can take care of my people.

I love it.

And the possible impact or the.

The undoubted impact that you're going to have is enormous.

And I knew there was a reason I loved you.

You know, My goal is to reach 300 million people with this message here of purpose, prosperity and joy.

And you have a staggering purpose that is so aligned with the energy and heart of who I am and what I'm doing.

I love it and I want to.

Yeah, I'm excited about it.

So let me ask you a final question here, and that is this.

Whether it's about warmspace IO or the peripheral or learnings that brought you back to creating this, to let us be in touch with our humanity, what would you like to say to encourage or to teach people listening Right now about their own divinity, capability, possibility, the truth of what we can create.

Yes.

Thank you.

Yeah.

First and foremost, always believe in you.

Right.

And I've got a friend, Braxton, he does these bracelets.

They're called I believe in you.

Right.

And they've got an NFC on it.

And you can give the bracelets away and then watch where they go in the world.

So give a little kindness through that bracelet.

And it starts with this most fundamental of elements, to look someone in the eye and say, kellen, I truly, deeply believe in you and what you stand for.

And if everyone watching and listening to any of your shows, there's one message they can take with them is belief is the foundation.

When we can believe in each other, believe in ourselves, there's nothing we can't achieve.

And if a practice of respect, appreciation, and gratitude can help strengthen that confidence that I have a shot at the best life ever, then that's where it starts.

And practice that every day.

Believe in you.

I do believe in you.

Hell, yeah.

You know, that's just wonderful.

And I want to say to you guys listening, Patrick loves you.

I love you.

And the both of us give you that assurance of that possibility from absolute certainty, not only from experiencing it in our own lives, but as Patrick indicated, from walking through the fire multiple times with a refusal to give up and a firm commitment to go forward, to not give up, to believe, and to not end, you know, down, but to stand up, to hope, to see and to believe.

Patrick, thanks for being here today with me.

Thank you, Kelly.

It was a pleasure and an honor, and I admire you deeply.

I appreciate you.

Thank you.

Well, you're welcome.

And I'm grateful to have such powerful voices, my friends.

You hear all kinds of cool stuff, and today's been especially good.

And it won't mean anything unless you listen, unless you let it land, unless you hear the nudge and feel it and decide to do something, even a little something with it.

Because if you do, the future is open, it is bright, and there is a path from where you are to create your ultimate life right here, right now.

Your opportunity for massive growth is right in front of you.

Every episode gives you practical tips and practices that will change everything.

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