Your Trauma Is Not a Curse — It’s Your Goldmine: The Story You’re Afraid to Tell Is the One That Saves Lives

Welcome to the show. Tired of the hype about living a dream? It's time for truth.This is the place for tools, power, and real talk, so you can create the life you dream and deserve your ultimate life. Subscribe, share, create. You have infinite power.Hello there, and welcome to this episode of your ultimate life, the podcast created to help you live a life of purpose, prosperity and joy by serving with your gifts, your talents. Today, I'm blessed to have a special guest, Aurora Winter. Aurora, welcome to the show.

It's great to be on the show with you. Looking forward to this.

Yeah, me too. So one of the things I like to ask first is kind of a weird question, and maybe it's not weird, it's.I'd like you to put off the jacket of modesty for a moment. I'd like you to tell the readers how Aurora adds good to the world.

My mission, a little tiny story. So, in 2015, I took my MBA, actually went to Italy for a year, got my MBA, and I was graduated, graduated. I'm like, okay, this is as good as it gets.I'm officially approved with an mba. And I'm. I asked God, what can you do with this little cog in the planet named Aurora? How can.How can you, Lord, use the talents that I have, the passions that I have, the curiosities that I have to make the biggest difference? Because once I had my mba, I could live anywhere in the world. I could do so many different things.And what came to me clearly, and probably you're somebody who could relate to this, wasn't a voice so much, but it was a clear kind of understanding that I can take my passion for and love of story and communication and business and.And if I could offer that to people who are already up to something, already making a difference in the world, that I could help them reach a hundred times, a thousand times more people and make a much bigger difference. So I call that karma math. So I really did sort of ask a Buckminster Fuller kind of question, like, how can I make the biggest difference?And that's what I'm doing now.

I love that. And we share that feeling. My.My commitment this year is to reach 300 million people with the message of worth, identity, possibility, ownership and sovereignty.That's the acronym wipos, W I P O S. And so the books, the podcasts, the television show I had, I have an LA talk radio weekly show live on Tuesday afternoons, and I've been on seven or 800 shows. All of that is in an effort to share that possibility. And truth. So we share that desire.And I'm really grateful for who you are and what you're doing to do that. So before we started I asked you if you'd written the book of Aurora and you said yes. And it talks about your own journey to self discovery.And I haven't read it and I don't know the details but nobody falls up this mountain of a desire to serve, right? It always seems that there's some bunch of crap that happens sometimes accidentally, sometimes other people, sometimes just cruel circumstance.And then we either let that ruin us or refine us. And sometimes we let it ruin us for a day, week, month, year, decade, who knows.And eventually if we decide to refine us, there seems to rise up in us this yearning to serve. I could help somebody, this desire. So tell us a little bit about the story of how you didn't fall up this mountain.

Yeah, I did not fall up the mountain, No. I was a very ambitious young woman. Graduated from the University of British Columbia, Canada. Studied honors economics.My father was a professor and I married my sweetheart. We started a wonderful business, the only business we could think of to start with no money.And we grew that to the largest yacht dealership and largest yacht charter company in western Canada. A multi million dollar business from an initial loan of 2005 $500 from our parents.And then my 33 year old husband died right in front of me and we had a four year old son.So I went from the pinnacle of a dream life, super successful financially in my tw beautiful baby boy, four year old boy and a wonderful husband who was my best friend to in one moment my life being turned completely upside down. And like you can probably imagine, I felt like Humpty Dumpty.I felt like I'd fallen off the walls, smashed into hundreds of pieces and I had no idea how to super glue the pieces back together again. But I had a compelling reason. I had this 4 year old boy looking up at me with such trust I had to get it together for him.So that was the beginning of my journey of getting it together and, and going from heartbreak to happiness. And that is the name of my first book. It's called From Heartbreak to Happiness. An intimate Diary of Healing. And perhaps you can relate to this.For quite some time I was furious with God. I'm like how can you, you know, take my son's father away?

How dare you?

How dare you. Yeah, that did not help my connection with God.

But then I had something story here, just a second. I have a client who's a doctor for a lot of years. She's retired now. We're just retiring.And she said, you know, I've threatened God with a lawsuit many times. Anyway, go ahead.

Well, I did struggle for a number of years.Struggling going down the mountain, probably maybe not going up, because I was grieving, and I felt angry and I felt like a victim, although I hated that word, and I continue to hate that concept. But on the second anniversary of my husband's death, I was gifted with a dream. And this dream changed my life.So in the dream, my husband came to me on the second anniversary of his death, the only way he could, in the dream. And we met at an airport with the stupid plastic tables, and I unleashed my fury at him.Everybody else is going somewhere else, but we're just sitting at these stupid plastic tables, and I'm like, how could you? Like, how could you. How could you leave me? How could you leave your son? How could you die just. And he asked me three questions that changed my life.The first one was, well, if you had it to do all over again, would you still have our son? Like, I searched my heart for a nanosecond. Absolutely. He's the light of my life. He's my joy and my blessing.The second question was, if you had it to do all over again, would you still marry me? I thought about it all, the good times, the sailing, the business, the fun. Like, yeah, I'd still marry you.And then he asked me the third question, and this is the one that changed everything. He said, given those two answers, would you want to know that I would die young?I searched my heart in the dream for a long moment, and I discovered the answer was no. I would not want to taint the joy that we did have with dread.And that dream changed everything because it allowed me to accept what happened as if I had willingly chosen it. And that was the beginning of me going up the mountain instead of down.

So we're not going to leave that there. What does that mean, to understand?Because we live in a world right now where there's so much victim mindset, there's so much addiction to mediocrity, and so much learned helplessness. Like, what does it mean to accept something? To allow the truth of reality to be what it is and not be shackled by it to me.

And everybody can have their own definition, of course, but to me, it means trying.On the question that Einstein said, he said we really face, the most important question to answer is, do you think that the universe is conspiring to support you? Or do you think it's out to get you?And when I try on the idea that the universe actually has my back, or God, if you prefer, has my back, that there's something supportive that's not conspiring against me, like, what if reality, all of it is a blessing. And in fact, that's the only way to survive and thrive.Because if one little person tries to push against reality, you'll just get crushed emotionally and probably every other way, too. But when we can, you know, lean into reality and accept it and dance with it, that's where possibilities unfold.So for me, it meant, like, well, what if there were other ways that my husband could have died that were even worse, that were even sooner? What if I never met him? What if, what if, what if, what if? What if I leaned into being grateful instead of resentful about what had happened?

When you say that, I love it, and I don't disagree. One minute. My history is long and difficult and complex and scattered with all kinds of battleground moments.And people ask often when I tell stories on shows and podcasts, if you could go back, what could you change? And I've been asked that question so many times, I know the answer in an instant. The answer is nothing.But the first 57 times I got asked, I might have thought about it for a moment. Because you think about, you know, what else? And the truth is we are who we are, how we are, where we are, when we are, and that's what we have.And we wouldn't trade it for anything, because that's the power that you have. Like, you're going through that, choosing to accept something with gratitude instead of resentment. Like, what does that even mean? How do you be.How do you choose to learn to be grateful for something that difficult? I mean, I give 50 other examples, but we'll just use that one. How do you learn to be grateful and find the gift in such a tragedy?

Well, it's not that easy, but in my case, I tried everything else. I tried drinking. I tried, you know, working out like a demon at the gym. I tried going to church, tried therapy, and none of those things worked.I tried railing at the universe or complaining to God. That didn't work. So at the end, I had gratitude left to try.And it was actually the gift of this dream that made it easy, because I feel like it wasn't the dream I felt was a message. It wasn't. It was, like, surprising to me. So it was hard to think that it was just inside of me.So I felt like it was a divine download, but of course it was.

So let's get that really clear right now. The universe does have your back. I think the phrase Einstein uses is the universe friendly. And I love that question and the outcome of it.And so, yes, yes, and yes, it was a divine gift to you, so we won't have to phrase it or call it anything else. So then go from there.

Yeah. So at the end of trying various different things that don't work, why not try gratitude? A Course in Miracles is a wonderful book.A bit of a hard read if you're not ready for it, but the basic idea in A Course in Miracles is that we can either choose grievances or gratitude. And that's fundamentally how life looks. If you choose grievances, you're resentful, you're angry, you're bitter.You can choose to see that other people are the cause of all of your problems. If you choose to gratitude, you can instead feel grateful that you're able to read, you're able to listen to this podcast.You're interested in having an outstanding and extraordinary life. You're interested, you know, in what we're discussing here. And there's so much to be grateful for.And when you lean into gratitude, perhaps the next step, next logical step, is taking charge, taking action to do what you can with the life that you've been given.

I love that. What is the gift here? And what can I create with this mess? Okay. With this mess that I otherwise couldn't create?

Yeah, right. I wrote a book about healing from grief. It's called grief relief in 30 minutes. How to Use the Peace Method to Go From Heartbreak to Happiness.And what I learned through writing that book and through coaching a lot of people through grief is probably something that's very familiar to you, is kind of the ladder of consciousness. So every. Every emotion or every thought could be equated to a vibration or to a step on this ladder of consciousness.So one of the things that was helpful for me to understand, which I first learned by reading the book Power vs. Force by Dr. David Hawkins.

Hawkins, right.

Yeah, I love him. Is that grief is definitely negative. It's below the neutral, definitely.But what was helpful to learn is that from grief is anger more life force or less life force? Is guilt more life force or left less or shame more or less? Like, these are not obvious.But once you look at the ladder of consciousness, which you can find on YouTube, I could see that. Oh, from grief, fear has more life force. So when I was guiding Myself or my clients out of grief.Triggering fear is actually useful because it's not really that easy or not even possible to be Superman and jump, you know, all the way from grief to empowerment and peace.But and it, you definitely can't logic somebody out of grief because that the intellectual is like four hundreds and grief is 75 on this arbitrary scale of 1 to 1000.So just understanding that every thought, every is equivalent to an emotion and that there's ladders can help helped me and can help others to guide themselves in the right direction up the up the mountain instead of down. So if you are already feeling empowered and you reach for anger, that's the wrong direction.But if you're feeling grief or shame, fear can have more life force. So baby steps, take the next step.

After this and thank you for that.After this divine intervention that you had that gave you a new perspective and you realized that you wouldn't want to know and that you did deeply treasure all the things that you had and that they were beautiful bricks of gold or, you know, sprinkles of gold in your heart and your life and your memory. What did you start doing next to move forward? Because sometimes we talk about this stuff and we say profound, cool stuff. Okay, cool.And then the question people have is, okay, what's, what do I do first?

Okay, well, I have a little story that goes with that. I was already, I was already a screenwriter at the time that my husband died. I owned our yacht business with him and also as a screenwriter.And so I was writing at home alone, which is not the best thing to do to be home alone while you're grieving. Well, with. I had my four year old there. Anyway, so a friend came over and he said, you are depressed.You need to come to this party in Vancouver, which was for the LA kind of Hollywood crowd. And I'm like, ah, I don't feel like it. He's like, no, get your stuff on, we're going.So I went to this party, which I really didn't want to go to, and I sat at the bar because I didn't feel like mingling. Although I usually love talking to people. But I was, you know, I was grieving and a man I didn't know sat beside me. He said, what do you do?I said, well, I'm a screenwriter. He's like, tell me about your story.I told him about my story and I got all animated and excited because I love the story, which I was working on about absent fathers and lost sons.Obviously related to my experience and then he said, I think you should represent the province of British Columbia and go pitch your story at the Banff Film Festival. I'm like, who are you? And he turned out to be the head of the B.C. film Commission.Now, I tell this story because there actually are two takeaways, or maybe three. One, get out of the house. You know, that I had to get out of the house.Two, I talked about something I cared about and was passionate about without seeking. Without seeking anything. I didn't even know who that person was. And then point number three, if you.If you get out of the house and you show up with your energy of passion or enthusiasm, don't be surprised if the universe opens a door to you that you had no idea was even there. And from accepting that and speaking at the Banff Media Festival, I then got a job.And basically it turned into 20 minutes, that turned into six figures. And I really did need the encouragement. And because my husband had died, I needed a job to support myself. So I think anybody can do those things.Get out of the house. Talk about what you. What you care about, what you're passionate about. And if an opportunity comes, say yes.

That'S fabulous. And I love the story, and I love the three steps of advice. So how many years has it been since your husband passed?

My husband died in 1991. February 18th. 1991.

February 18th. So it's been a minute. Yeah, been a minute.And you got that job and you moved forward with that, and you told me earlier you'd written 10 or 11 or a bunch of books. And I'm gonna guess that almost all of them have to do with your own journey and your life experience and things you've learned.Is that true, or am I off base?

Well, before writing books, I was writing screenplays, which are more along the lines of the young adult fantasy series that I just launched called Magic Mystery in the Multiverse. It's a trilogy written three or four books that are about happiness or healing from grief.Grief relief in 30 minutes, from break to happiness, encouraging words. The grief relief workbook four, I guess. And then I realized that, you know, my.A lot of my clients were coming to me and saying, how did you get on so many TV and radio shows? You know, how did you write so many books?So I realized that people really wanted help with publishing and with messaging, and so I began to help people with that. I sold the Grief Coach Academy. Somebody else is operating that now. And now I run Same Page Publishing. So it's been a minute, and it's been a journey.But I always like to think, okay, what problems have I, have I solved or am I in the process of solving and how could that help others?So I always have like three questions when I'm thinking about doing something new or somebody else might be thinking about doing a new, a new business is like, what am I really, really good at? What do I still love to do? Because you have to love it and who is that worth the most to? So in my case, I love words, I love communication.So now I help experts turn their expertise into bestselling award winning books.

That's wonderful. And I love the fact that you do that because I think everybody, everybody has a story.Most people don't know it and even if they do, they don't know what to do with it.

Yeah.

When you, when you help, how do you help people find, find the story that they have? How do you help people find that?

This is the coolest part of what I do because I, I am also very interested in people. So usually I just work with people for maybe a month and we work on, you know, I, I ask them about their life just like you're asking me questions.And I see where, what is the thread of gold that actually intersects those three things? If it's a, you know, what is the purpose of the book? Do they want to change lives? Do they want to leave a legacy? Do they want to a memoir?Or they want something that would be a business builder. They want to start speaking in stages. So we take that end goal into account. Or it could be fiction.I'm helping an author write a series of legal thrillers. So it's like, okay, what could be made into a movie as well as a series of books.And then I interview them and very quickly the thread of gold becomes clear to me. And then I propose to the client, here's what I think the title is, the subtitle, here's the categories, here is the reader that will love this book.And then if they'd like to write it, they can either go ahead and write it without outline or they can work with me. And how I generally work with people. Over half my clients are dyslexic. It's just by speaking. I call it the spoken author method.So if there's maybe 10 chapters in a book, we will have like 10 one hour conversations digging deep into that. And then I take that transcript and turn that into a polished book. So it's easy and fun for them and I really like it. So it's fun for me. Too.

I love that. I have a question for you. And this is because I do that too.I run a workshop book challenge, and I help people write their books and stories, and it's always the one I focus on is the book of them, their own story of transformation.Yeah, but what, like, what do you find personally most, what's in your heart that makes it really important for you to help people find the answers to those questions? The intersection of what you love and what you can do and how it's going to help people. Like, what is in you that makes that important?

I only help people who are, who have a mission to make a difference. So as I'm helping them make a difference, I'm indirectly making that difference. And that, that fuels me.You know, you and I have both been in dark places, and sometimes, you know, a smile or a book or a quote can lift you out of despair. So I'm like, obviously I love books, but I've had my life changed so many times by authors who weren't even alive anymore.Like, a book is like a seed. But what's so cool about it is it can germinate much later than when the seed was written.It can germinate decades or hundreds of years or thousands of years after the writer is dead. And you, you germinate it by opening the book and watering it with your attention, and then it can come alive.You know, the teachings of the Stoics, Marcus Aurelius's diary, have changed many people. I love the Dao de Cheng ancient book, but my life has also been changed by, by Terry Pratchett, by C.S.lewis, and by writers who are still alive today, like Brandon San, you know, or James Clear. Like, these people have changed the trajectory of my life in small or large ways.So for me, as a book lover and a word lover and a communication lover and a film lover, if I can help others do that, that's like so cool. And I have like decades of experience writing books and writing screenplays. And I also launched a film and television company.We raised $5 million, made eight films. I worked as a television executive.So I'm that weird combination of TV executive, author, and somebody who's launched several seven figure businesses.So when I bring that sweet spot of that combination to the right person, they're like, well, I wouldn't imagine coaching with anybody else because you've got, you've.

Got that trifecta that's just absolutely fantastic. We live in a world today with a lot of division, negativity, a lot of anger A lot of frustration, a lot of finger pointing, a lot of blame.And so when you look at that, how do you help someone who come, who has a yearning to do something? They don't like that, but they are stuck in this story about who they are or aren't or what they can or can't do.What do you appeal to first or where do you go first?Help someone at least light the spark of possibility it got lit for you when you had that dream and you had to actually answer that question and consider all the ramifications. Somebody comes to you and they want help, they've made that clear by talking to somebody and you're it.Where do you go first to help them start to see a new field of possibilities?

Well, you might be surprised by my answer, which is I start first within myself. So I, I believe things into existence.So I need to believe in this client's vision, in their purpose, in their brilliance that just needs to be exposed. And once I can find in myself the part of me that can bedrock believe and see it and claim it and own it for them, then I can coach them.But if I don't see it, believe it, I can't claim it for them. And they're not the right client for me to help. So I don't help everybody who wants my help.But then once I see it and believe it in myself, like I've had such amazing things happen with my clients. For example, one of my clients, he's now got his own TV show, right? He always wanted to have a TV show.He didn't believe it could happen, but I knew it could happen and then it happened. So that's cool. Their client, the litigation attorney, didn't believe that he could become a best selling, award winning authority.Now he's got several books on Amazon, over 3,000 reviews. He's an American Fiction Award winner. He's like, wow, I did it. I'm like, of course you did it. I knew you could do it.And then after I found that part of me that really believes, that can see it, that can claim it, that can own it for them, that can call on the divine energy to support them in this divine mission, then I do.I use coaching tools such as cognitive behavioral therapy, which I've written down a bunch of processes you can use in the book grief relief in 30 minutes to help them see it too and to help shift thinking.

What do you do?What kind of conversation do you have with them to find that thing so that you can figure out inside of you that Kind of powerful belief because I understand that seeing things for people and knowing that it's there deeply and powerfully.I just have had some recent examples with one a client and one not a client that were unexpected and that same kind of, you know, seeing, seeing in them and for them. How do you have that conversation with them?Do you just find out about them or do you, like, what do you do to draw them out in a way that allows you to see and believe in that?

I don't know that it's that linear or logical. Yes, I have multiple conversations with them. I get to know them.I listen to like when you, if you deeply listen to somebody, you can hear the fear or the doubt or the little lack of self worth that's standing in the way. And you can also hear, you know, bravado. Or you could hear if it's not really their goal, if it's something that they think they should want.Like that same client who now has his TV show, who's on top of the world, who is like amazed. Like every time he talked to me about making seven figures, it wasn't his goal, it wasn't true to who he was.So I didn't, you know, I didn't choose to lean into that goal because it was just like society's goal. But his goal is to speak and change people through, through his books and through speaking and his, the TV show. I could, I could see him light up.And then I meditate every morning and usually pray for my clients to be blessed. And I know it sounds very airy fairy, but I think it really makes a difference if one person really believes in you. You can, you can just do so much.It's so incredible. And then after I've got my part of it solid, then I, then I would just, I would just directly ask them, what do you think is stopping you?Talk to me like what you know. And then they will usually say some limiting belief or some thought. I'm like, when did that thought first occur to you?Is that really your thought or is it somebody else's thought? And then I lead them through the peace method, which is this five step process. And usually one of those five questions will create a huge aha.And then they can start leaning in. And it's not like one coaching session and then your self worth issue or your self doubt is gone.But each step can help open up that you can then take another step and another step and before you know it you have evidence from the world that you're capable and competent.

You Do I love something you just said? I want to ask you a little bit about it. You talked about getting up, doing stuff in the morning, prayer, meditation, other kinds of things.Something I've discovered in the years I've been doing this is. I call it a DCP Daily creation process. And it is an intentional.I don't like the word morning routine because it's so cliche, but it's a way you create yourself on purpose. Talk about what you do to create the aurora every day.

This is turning into Tim Ferriss podcast. I love it. I get up, I make myself my.I have actually first I start with juice because I heard from Andrew Huberman that if you have beet juice in the morning before coffee, that's good. So I start with juice. And then this morning, for example, I listened to two different meditations on YouTube. This took about half an hour.And so then I just, just, you know, really claim that high, high frequency space. And then I write, sometimes for hours, but sometimes just for five minutes in my journal.You know, I bless my family, I bless my team, I bless my clients and ask to be guided during the day to make a difference. And then that's about it.Sometimes I also, especially on the weekends, I would read a little something inspirational like the Dowda Ching or maybe from A Course in Miracles or something like that. Or this weekend I actually read Steven Pressfield. You know him, he's the War of Art.

Yeah, the War of art. The artist's Journey. Nobody wants to read your crap. Turning pro. I have all those somewhere over on the shelves.

Yeah, yeah, so that's great. And then. And then I usually go to the gym and exercise for about an hour, an hour and 15.And then I start my work, work day after showering and having breakfast. That works for me.

Yeah, there's two or three hours there. Some people say my morning creation process is about two and a half hours. And people will often say, oh, how do you do that? I don't have time.And my answer to that is I don't have time. Not to exactly. Because doing that, I say my two and a half hours creates five exactly during the day. Do you find that to be true?

Sounds like absolutely. Every time in the past when I've cut something out because I don't have time, it's like, no, you pay for it because you run.I would run out of steam, you know, two or three hours earlier in the day. Also, I find it's very interesting. You and I are both very creative. You know, you've written songs.You've written 20 books with the one that coming out shortly. In order to stay sharp creatively, it's not like we're, I don't know, bricklayers or something.We have to be sharp mentally, which means we need to honor our brain and our body and also we need to fill it with something to compensate for all the negativity when we listen to the news. I started a new YouTube channel called Strategic Basics.I'm having a lot of fun creating it, but the tagline is from breaking news to business breakthroughs. So I've been listening to a lot more news than normal and I'm like.

Ah, I totally agree with that.

Yeah, I want to hear what you think, you know, as you're. I don't know if you've shared the title of your new book, so I won't say it. You can if you want, but.But I'm also noticing because I do use the LLMs like ChatGPT or I prefer Cloud actually. And I find that it's not free for a human being to review dozens of options. There's a certain brain drain.So, you know, I prompt the LLM, for example, thinking about a book title. So I'm working on a new book, working on a title and the subtitle.LLMs give me lots of options, but it's not free as a human being for us to review all of that. So I need to keep my brain sharp. And I'm curious what you think about that.

I think that over reliance. So the book. Yeah, the book I've got coming out is about coaching, coaching and the rise of AI.And I'm exploring what I think is going to decimate the coaching industry in the next 14 months and what you can do about it if you're either a coach or want to be and want to stay in business.I, I think the over reliance on the LLMs makes growth difficult because even if it turns out something really good for you, you miss the work and the struggle that make you something different in the creation. And so they're, they're very handy and they're very useful for things.But I am not going to outsource my growth just because it can do something for me faster. Ostensibly, and I agree with you, I don't think you need all those options.When I write book titles or I help clients do that, there's a few, it just comes, it's intuition and inspiration and it's a function of your creativity. And I love them as a tool and I use them a lot I did a lot of analysis on coaching methodologies in creating my stuff for this book.

That's going to be a great book. So many people are going to benefit from that. The core I want to read it.

Is what it's, you know, what it says. And the core of being is the thing that it can't do. Like, we're looking at everything that it can do. It's going to replace this, that, and the other.And it is. And the real question is, what can't that do? What is the humanness that's now more important?And if we can get all the housekeeping stuff out of the way faster, then there's more time and power to do the creative thing that only the amazing creation of the divine of the human being can do. Do.

Yeah. And seeing as it's a language prediction model, the answer, by definition, is going to be mediocre, which is something you don't stand for.You are against mediocrity.

Addiction to mediocrity is one of the favorite topics that I have. Right. I was just on a few radio stations and they.I had the agency do a bunch of pitches and the one that landed most of all is talk about how come addiction to mediocrity is ruining our lives. So, yeah, several of those. So what didn't I ask you about that you want to tell people about creating the life?You want the ultimate life or your own journey that that's like, that you'd like to talk about?

I would really love your audience to know that their creativity really matters on two levels. One, if you're creating, you are alive. I'm.I'm just going to go on a limb here and say, you know, when, when they say that we're created in the image and likeness of God, well, what does God mean to people?You know, God is a scary word, but I think what we're trying to say or what that could be interpreted as is you are created in the image and likeness of a creator. So when you are creating, you are tapping into all of this juicy live energy. And that keeps you young.It keeps you, you know, there's no such thing as holding still. You are either expanding and growing and contributing and creating, or you're shrinking and dying. And that is not what we want for you.So I love to suggest to people really lean into creativity. I actually have a cool episode on Strategic Basics about creativity is the new is a new currency.And the second thing about creativity, even if you never publish your book or your memoir or your poem or your song, it still matters that you create it.Because as you sift through your life and find your life story and realize, gosh, I never realized until I sat down, but that horrible thing that happened, if that hadn't have happened, these wonderful gifts and miracles wouldn't have unfolded like you. You gain a new perspective on your life, and then it's so much easier to lean into grav attitude instead of grievances.And then the third part, I believe, obviously for myself, but this is up to you. But I believe that we each have a responsibility, a responsibility to make the world a better place.And so what do you have to contribute that's more valuable than your own hero's story of overcoming adversity and eventually triumphing? Your story can change other people. So I'd love people to, to lean into that message.

I love that.And that's interesting because in the book I showed you earlier, the story arc, there's a process in there called the dsm and it's not the shrink manual. It is the developmental story matrix.And it's a structured process to help people do exactly that, to mine the events of their lives for how they felt then, how they feel now. And then looking at that difference, how can the difference, my own growth, benefit those that I would serve?And you end up with this entire spreadsheet essentially, but this matrix of 50, 100, 200 events. And from that you have an infinite number of keynotes and an infinite number of things that you can use to share from your own heart and life.And since it's your lived experience, it's the most powerful stuff you've got.

And it's your ip, it's your intellectual property.

It most certainly is, you know, so.

Our stories matter more than ever in the age of AI and I've got to read that book. That sound, the story arc sounds great. Go ahead, go ahead.

Sorry. No, no.

The other thing I would really love people to know because most first time authors spend three and a half years writing a book and then they drop the ball right at the finish line.So in my book, turn words into wealth, or one of my books, I got a bunch, I walk through seven different ways to make seven figures with your message.So one of the things I love to help people, even people who already have published books or they're just on the about to publish the book, even if they don't need help with the content of the book. I love to help people think through how are you going to make a difference to your reader after they've read Your book.So my first published book, which was called From Heartbreak to Happiness, I, I really in my innocence thought, okay, I put all my wisdom of how to recover from grief into the book. They're not going to want anything more that is wrong.So if you think through what problems will people have even after they've read your brilliant book and if you're willing, you know, to help them as a coach, as a consultant, as a speaker, as a workshop leader or maybe you have a PDF or whatever, think through it.Because most best selling award winning authors that you know about, like the Mel Robbins or the Wayne Dyers of the world or the Brandon Sanderson's of the world, they don't necessarily make. They make 85% of their income not from their book but from the other things that they do. So most first time authors don't know about that.So that's why I wrote Turn Words into Wealth to give you seven different models and proof of concept for all, how they work, different examples with my clients or other people. So choose one of those models and you can even add it to the book at the very last stage. But you need to add it like a little bit of yeast.So you don't want to just slap it on in the author's bio. You want to sprinkle a little yeast. So the whole book is also letting them know that you can solve the next problem that they have.

I love that there's so much about what you teach that I also talk to people about. So tell people if they want more Aurora, where do they find you? How do they.You've Talked about a YouTube channel, you've talked about a dozen books and systems. You've got a new YouTube strategic basics. Tell people where to find you so they can have more.

Thanks so much.Well, if people want help creating their book with the spoken author method, they can sign up for a free business breakthrough call at Book Call Biz and then I can have a chat with them and see if I can help them. If they'd like to get my book, Turn words into wealth, they can get it wherever books are sold.But they can also get it for free if they would like@turnwordsinto wealth.com they get the ebook for free. But if you want the print book, you can get it on Amazon or other places like that.And then my company is samepage publishing.com if you want even more information, you can check that out. Same page publishing.com because I come on the same page as my clients. This was fun. What an unexpectedly deep and thoughtful conversation we had.

So, Aurora, I want to thank you for being with us and sharing your heart and your love and your gifts and your encouragement with with people today. Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you.

You are welcome. I want to encourage all of you listeners to listen a couple of times and to go to those different places and check that out.She has done what we've talked about a lot. She's taken her life experience and poured her heart and soul into different ways to lift and bless your life.And I can tell you for sure because I recognize lots of the methods and things that she talks about.If you follow what she says and if you lean in and expect miracles from your own being, from your life and from the universe, you will move forward to create your ultimate life. Never hold back and you'll never ask why. Open your heart.And this time around, right here, right now, your opportunity for massive growth is right in front of you. Every episode gives you practical tips and practices that will change everything.If you want to know more, go to kellenfluker media.com if you want more free tools, go here. Your Ultimate Life Ca subscribe the heart in the sky and your feet on the ground.