He Beat Stage 4 Melanoma Without Chemo: Georges Cordoba’s Radical Healing Journey

8 Brain Tumors. Stage 4 Cancer. No Chemo. 13 Years Cancer-Free.
What happens when the doctors say, “There’s nothing more we can do”?
For Georges Cordoba, it was the beginning—not the end.
In this astonishing episode, Georges shares his raw, miraculous journey through 10 years of cancer treatment, including 4 brain surgeries, 2 inoperable tumors, and the moment he walked away from conventional medicine—and into divine surrender.
He chose holistic healing.
He chose emotional release.
He chose faith.
And now, he coaches others through the very fire he walked through.
🧠 Key Takeaways:
- “All disease is emotional.” Georges reveals how acidic, inflamed bodies and unhealed trauma become breeding grounds for disease—and how healing begins with forgiveness.
The 4-Leg Table of Holistic Health:
- Physical. Emotional. Mental. Spiritual. Georges walks us through each—and how he balanced them to eliminate cancer at the root.
- The Surrender That Saved His Life: At the end of his rope, Georges went to the chapel, fell to his knees, and told God: “If you give me a chance, I’ll help others.” And everything changed.
- Visualization as Medicine: Learn how Georges used emotional clearing, prayer, divine light visualizations, and even Pac-Man imagery to heal from within.
- Your Healing Begins When You Forgive: Georges released decades of emotional pain—and never had another recurrence.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:18 - Understanding the Emotional Roots of Disease
04:51 - The Power of Service
11:38 - Facing Mortality and Reflection
23:13 - Journey Through Cancer: A Personal Story
30:18 - A New Path in Healing
46:25 - Creating Your Ultimate Life
All diseases, no matter what disease, are emotional.
Speaker AAnd they all start on inflamed bodies, bodies that are acidic.
Speaker AAcid that we create ourselves through stress, eating in a hurry, eating the wrong things.
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Speaker BHello there, and welcome to this episode of your ultimate life, the podcast that I created to help every person understand they can create a life of purpose, prosperity and joy by serving with your life experience and your gifts and talents.
Speaker BI have a special guest today, Georges Cordoba.
Speaker BGeorges, welcome to the show.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker AAnd thank you for inviting me.
Speaker AYes, thank you.
Speaker BYou're certainly welcome.
Speaker BAnd we had a chance to talk just a little bit before we started recording, and I kept stopping you because I want to get all that stuff on the.
Speaker BOn the, on the, on the recording here and on the episode.
Speaker BOne of the things you told me right when we started is that that beautiful mountain behind you, even though I know you're using a backdrop, but that is the actual view out of your back or your front, I don't know, front or back window.
Speaker BIs that true?
Speaker BBackyard?
Speaker AYes, that's called the Oregon mountains.
Speaker AIf you see it.
Speaker ALooks like the pipes of organs.
Speaker AThat's what they call it, like that.
Speaker BOh, the Oregon mountains.
Speaker BOkay, cool.
Speaker BWell, I play the organ for our church every Sunday.
Speaker AOh, nice.
Speaker BWell, really good.
Speaker BSo, Georges, I'm going to ask you, and it will lead us into all the stories we want.
Speaker BBut the first thing I want to ask you is.
Speaker BI want you to.
Speaker BIt's really important to me for our guests, for our listeners, and for me to know the answer to this question.
Speaker BSo I want you to, without being either diplomatic or modest, tell me how Georgia's adds good to the world.
Speaker AWell, I'm always.
Speaker AI really, as a Christian, I always believe in serving others.
Speaker AIt's one of the things our Lord taught us, love and service.
Speaker AAnd since I was a little kid, I grew up playing tennis.
Speaker AI actually tried to play pro, also piano, by the way.
Speaker AI ended up playing at my church piano for a few years.
Speaker ABut as a youngster, I remember being 9, 10 years old and at the club that we were being trained and taught tennis.
Speaker AMy dad played Davis cup, and so that's how I started.
Speaker ABut they did have ball boys that were coming from favelas, from poor areas, and they will give him a new uniform.
Speaker AAnd they will be like ball boys for, for the adults and us kids.
Speaker ASo we got, we used to get, you know, some money to spend, you know, at the, at the club during the day.
Speaker AAnd I would, for example, convince my friends that our change, we will go to where these kids were gathered at a certain corner at the club and give them that change for them to have.
Speaker AIt started like that.
Speaker AThen in high school, I would go to missionary work in places like.
Speaker AI'm actually originally from Venezuela.
Speaker AOur parents from Greece and Spain, they met there.
Speaker ABut we did some missionary work.
Speaker ABasically all of it was in the border between Venezuela and Colombia, helping tribes from both sides of the aisle.
Speaker AAnd I always found, like, I was born for that.
Speaker AIt was natural.
Speaker AAnd obviously when you serve others and you know this better probably than anybody, you feel that you were the one that was served.
Speaker AIt was like, what happened here I was helping this person.
Speaker ALater on, when I was sick, I also joined the American Cancer Society and I was a volunteer in Miami, Florida that actually recruited.
Speaker AWe went to 300 volunteers to take people that were going to cancer to the treatments.
Speaker ABecause sometimes life keeps going.
Speaker AThey don't have a right to get to a hospital or the social services, the bosses, they will be there like three hours before they get to the hospital and then get their treatments.
Speaker ASo stuff like that.
Speaker AThen we worked in hospital places.
Speaker AAnd one of my biggest ministries was take the kids to downtown with, with several brothers and sisters in vans and feed the homeless in downtown.
Speaker AAnd it was just, that's really what started.
Speaker AAnd then, so that's George's.
Speaker AIt's interesting you ask that because I've been coached to change my brand and speaking.
Speaker AAnd one of the exercises is to reach 10 of my best friends and ask them for a few paragraphs about me.
Speaker AWhat do they see in me?
Speaker AJust being honest and everything.
Speaker AThe word compassionate, competitive and in kind.
Speaker AIt was all over the place.
Speaker AAnd so that's me.
Speaker AI, I, you know, and it had to be a really a scary situation for me with five young children that changed my life.
Speaker AAnd I see it now when I look back Keelan, I see it as a blessing because surviving, okay, it's like God gave me the chance to sing the song I was born to sing, which is helping people, in this case is helping people prevent disease.
Speaker AWe are the sickest nation in the first world countries.
Speaker A66% of our nation has one to three chronic diseases right now.
Speaker AOne of two men will have cancer in their lifetime and one of three women will have cancer in their lifetime.
Speaker AThis is outrageous.
Speaker AAnd Nobody's doing anything.
Speaker A146 million US adults are obese.
Speaker AAnd if we don't change any of these trends by 2030 around the corner, half of the US will be obese.
Speaker AThis is just unheard of.
Speaker AAnd so, you know, I made a decision at the age of 57.
Speaker AI was a CTO at the time, but through my battle with cancer, I had to really transition out, bring another cto, and I arranged to work from home as a consultant for 18 months.
Speaker ABut my disease went 10 years.
Speaker AAnd so I can share all that.
Speaker AI don't know if you have any more questions, but that's George's.
Speaker BSo I'm going to dig into that a little bit.
Speaker BAnd then I want to go into your battle with cancer, because a lot of times people get an illness, whether it's cancer, which is the big C, or some other serious illness, and they get mad, they shrivel up, you know, they sort of wither away as opposed to use it as an opportunity for growth and service.
Speaker BSo we'll get back to that in a minute.
Speaker BWhat I heard is you started when you were really young and you had this urge from wherever to go be kind, to be of service to the other kids, to the ball boys and wherever.
Speaker BAnd you listen to it, and you did that.
Speaker BYou followed that urge.
Speaker BAnd it's interesting because, yeah, I always end up believing that we were built to love and serve each other.
Speaker BWe're happiest when we do that.
Speaker BWe feel rewarded when we do that.
Speaker BYou know, physically, our neurotransmitters operate.
Speaker BAnd there's got to be some spiritual equivalent of those neurotransmitters too.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BI don't know what they are, but it feels good there, too.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd so how did that happen?
Speaker BSo many people grow up in the same town or the same, you know, city, and they.
Speaker BThey develop a what's in it for me?
Speaker BAttitude.
Speaker AWhat was.
Speaker BWhat do you think was different for you?
Speaker BThat made you more aware, more sensitive, more willing to begin, even at a young age, to see how you could make other people's lives brighter.
Speaker BLike, what's the difference?
Speaker AIn my case, I attribute it to two things.
Speaker AOne, I was born with this.
Speaker ALike you said, everybody's born with this talent.
Speaker AIt's a talent.
Speaker AIs God given a universal law?
Speaker AI call it a divine law, that we're born to service, to help others.
Speaker ABut I also saw this movie on Jesus.
Speaker AIt was actually a car theater.
Speaker AYou go with a car?
Speaker AI went with my drive in.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDrive in theater.
Speaker BYeah, when I was a kid too, right.
Speaker AAnd so I'm watching this, it was in English.
Speaker ASpanish is my first language, but I will see the subtitles.
Speaker AI don't know, Maybe I was 10 years old and all I could see is this man just helping people, giving some great messages in parables and help the hungry, help the sick, help the one without clothing.
Speaker AAnd that struck me that it was like, doesn't everybody do that?
Speaker AYou know?
Speaker AAnd I asked, I probably asked my parents, I don't recall, but they probably said, no, it doesn't work that way.
Speaker AIt's just like you said, we go on our way and more so today in the last, let's say 20 years because we're in a very noisy society worldwide, but here in the States particularly.
Speaker AAnd we don't give ourselves time, we don't give ourselves time to really embrace this beautiful planet, these blessings that we have daily in front of us.
Speaker AAnd we don't realize it because we're in a hurry or you don't have time for yourself in the morning or in the evening to take some time for you.
Speaker ANobody's putting a gun in your head to say, hey, do it this way.
Speaker AGive time for yourself because it's not renewable.
Speaker AMy friends, one day we're going to leave this place and with our volunteer.
Speaker AMy wife is really my caregiver, my best friend, my better half.
Speaker ABut we always, when we went to do some work with Kindred Hospice, which is a nationwide program, the common denominator, Keelan was if I had some additional time, I would do the things I always put for, for later.
Speaker AFor later.
Speaker AAnd now I'm facing my departure and I might go out with a regret because you didn't get to do all that stuff.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAnd that brings to another thing.
Speaker ABut it's really, we don't face, we don't really face mortality until we're close to it.
Speaker AAn accident or a cancer or hepatitis or heart disease or heart attack.
Speaker AAnd so yeah, I believe that it was that movie.
Speaker AAnd also that for some reason I had that in me.
Speaker AI was like the type of toddler that I would go and share something.
Speaker AI.
Speaker AIt changed a little bit when I started to be competitive in tennis because you become a little bit of a self centered person in tennis.
Speaker AYou either win or you get your butt kick.
Speaker AThere's no tie or the team won, the team lost, you win or you got your butt kick.
Speaker ASo at that time I started to develop some competitive aptitudes in me and which I think he helped me through my battle my 10 year battle with cancer.
Speaker BSo I'd like to talk a little bit more about that.
Speaker BI love the story and thanks for sharing.
Speaker BThanks for sharing because at the end of the day, it's a choice that we make.
Speaker BLike you saw the movie and it impressed you and you were born with a good feeling and the desire to do that.
Speaker BAnd all of us are born with different gifts and talents.
Speaker BBut you know what?
Speaker BMaybe because of the noisy world, maybe because we have other bad examples or hardships or something, we allow that to be beat down, you know, we allow that inclination to get buried or out, you know, shout, get shouted over.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo we ignore that feeling and we get to.
Speaker BWhat's in it for me?
Speaker BTell me a little bit about your competitive tennis career.
Speaker BBecause you know, to get to where you're competitive at any level, like you don't fall up that mountain.
Speaker BSo it takes some, you know, it's like the mountain behind you.
Speaker BOrgan pipe.
Speaker BYou don't fall up that mountain either.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo tell me a little bit about what it took, the kind of commitment and dedication to, to excel at tennis, even though you didn't make it quite as far as you thought you might.
Speaker AYeah, great question.
Speaker AYes, I started very young.
Speaker AI would go and see my, my dad workout.
Speaker AMaybe I was 4 years old and especially on Sundays I would go see him play singles and doubles.
Speaker AThey spent half of the of month or Sunday playing tennis.
Speaker AAnd I was always my little record waiting for my dad to have some time at the end to throw balls to me.
Speaker AI saw him playing tournaments and the crowds and all that and I kind of like the, the whole ambience of, you know, so, so just like a few other kids that grew up in this club in Caracas, Venezuela, we developed this kind of like this fever.
Speaker AWe were really interested on being tennis players.
Speaker AAnd at that time we had the blessing that part of the world tour would go through Caracas.
Speaker AThe situation in Venezuela the last 25 years.
Speaker ACaracas was from Venezuela was one of the jewels of the world.
Speaker AReally.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd so a lot of the best players of the 70s and late 60s and early and late up to late 70s, we were invited as kids to be ball boys for this pros.
Speaker AAnd so wow.
Speaker AIt was like.
Speaker AAnd so then you watch and you learn and then we go and hit the wall and this and, and little by little, you know, we started playing tournaments.
Speaker AIn my, in my case, I started playing tournaments at 10.
Speaker AYou, you play as a junior.
Speaker A10, 12, 14, 16 and 18.
Speaker ABut the way it works, you can actually play the, the upper age even though you're 12.
Speaker ASo I was playing 12 and then I was playing kids that were 14.
Speaker AAnd that's a big difference in that, in those ages.
Speaker ABut at that, that taught me to really learn how to even my best friend, if I'm facing him in a tournament and even we spend the night together in one of our homes, hey, can I stay with Thomas?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd the next day we were playing against each other the quarterfinals of the national 12th tournament.
Speaker ASo I grew up competing and then I got into surfing as well.
Speaker AThere were some politics like even in the National Tennis Federation at that time.
Speaker AAnd I just felt that they didn't want me to succeed.
Speaker ASo at one point at 16, I told my dad, I'm going to stop for a while, I'm going to pick up something else.
Speaker AI started skateboarding in empty pools, surfing and that.
Speaker AIt was a year.
Speaker AAnd then I saw some of my, my best buddies getting scholarships here in the US to play NCAA Division 1.
Speaker ASo I made it a point to get back and work my butt off to, to come to a tournament that is very, it's key in Miami, Florida, the Orange bowl, right when the Orange bowl is the same time of the year in December.
Speaker AAnd that's where all coaches go.
Speaker AAnd so I was recruited along with two other kids to come to New Mexico State.
Speaker AAnd then you have to keep up.
Speaker AWe were full ride scholarship but you have to keep up being in the top six of the team and having better than C plus at that time, C plus average.
Speaker AObviously all the kids were doing something very easy.
Speaker ABut I started engineering and my other two friends too.
Speaker AAnd so that's what kind of like ignited everything.
Speaker AAnd then when we finished, we started to go on these pro Ams where it was in very affluent country clubs around Texas, even Southern Mexico, Phoenix and California, in San Diego, up in Fresno State area over there.
Speaker AAnd so the owners, the members of the club will get like this little thing like the horse races.
Speaker AAnd so George Escortova went to this my record.
Speaker ASo then they go and they do some bidding.
Speaker AThey start bidding on the player because we're going to play with a member of the club that proved to be very.
Speaker AIt was great because they housed us and stuff.
Speaker AAnd at one point, at one point my doubles partner, since we were freshmen and we went all the way to seniors and we were in the top 20 in doubles for NCAA he says, why don't we, why don't we just try.
Speaker ALet's go play some satellites.
Speaker AWe started, we started in the US and then we go down to Mexico and we did it.
Speaker AIt was tough because we didn't have ranking, so we had to play the qualifiers.
Speaker ASo it was really drooling to get.
Speaker AThen finally I made it to the main draw and you could in many cases lose in the first round.
Speaker ABut I was progressing very well.
Speaker AI ended up winning the national tournament open in Venezuela, which all the South Americans win and several Americans.
Speaker AI wasn't seated even.
Speaker AAnd that was in 1983.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BNot seated and you win.
Speaker BThat's quite a thing.
Speaker AYeah, that was.
Speaker AAnd so, so that was really something that really helped me because when I was in the national team, junior national team, they hired a Yugoslavian Olympian to help us with our mental rehearsing.
Speaker AKind of like visualize yourself winning the match, even if you're down two sets, one set and the second set down five one.
Speaker AVisualize coming back and winning.
Speaker AAnd I used that, a lot of that when I got sick.
Speaker ABut there's a lot more into that and I know we don't have a lot of time, but I would love to share.
Speaker BI want to hear about that.
Speaker BSo let's go from the reason I wanted you to talk about the tennis is because of all the work that it takes to get to any platform like that, of any height, you have to do all that work.
Speaker BSo I know you had a long career in tech and then in that process and you got, you know, you got yourself up, you said to CTO in one of the companies, two of them, I think you said.
Speaker BSo you then had a.
Speaker BAnd that's all seems good.
Speaker BYou had five kids and it's all wonderful.
Speaker BAnd then you got this diagnosis with cancer.
Speaker BTell me about what that did, how you felt about it and how did that mind work and determination that you'd previously developed.
Speaker BHow did that play into to that point?
Speaker AGreat question and I have to share real quick.
Speaker AI have a best selling book.
Speaker AI wrote a book about my experience and it made.
Speaker BOh, I want to know.
Speaker BSo tell me all about it made.
Speaker ABestseller on day one.
Speaker BOh wow.
Speaker AIt was January 21st, right in the midst of COVID I launched it first in English and then on St. George's Day, which is April 23rd of the same year, I launched it in Spanish.
Speaker AIt also made bestseller in the first day.
Speaker ABut almost at midnight I received the congratulations emailed by Amazon.
Speaker AAnd it really has been an amazing, an amazing tool not only to give me authority more, more so to.
Speaker AFor people to read it.
Speaker AAnd the common denominator is, oh Man, I'm reading and I'm feeling that I have a friend by me.
Speaker AYou know, I'm going through this cancer or I'm the caregiver for my wife.
Speaker AAnd I talk a lot about that because I really appreciate my wife.
Speaker AYou know, we will go late.
Speaker AI mean, we will go to bed and start praying and I will fall asleep.
Speaker AAnd later on, maybe closer to midnight, she was still praying.
Speaker AAnd so she.
Speaker AWith five kids to take care of.
Speaker AAnd at one point I had to stop working.
Speaker ABut yeah, it was as I told you earlier.
Speaker AI grew up, I'm half Greek and from my Greek side of the family, I was four and I lost my grandfather of colon cancer.
Speaker AThen between four and 10, my grandmother, my great grandmother lost two of her sisters, there were five of cancer.
Speaker AThen my godfather, which was my mother's cousin.
Speaker AThey also migrated to Venezuela from Greece after World War II.
Speaker AHe died of cancer.
Speaker AAnd then my uncle, my mother's brother, died of cancer.
Speaker ADifferent types of cancer.
Speaker ABut I grew up feeling the disease and ultimately the last one to go was my mother and also from cancer.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AAnd I always thought, I feared it.
Speaker AYou know, the secret what, what you don't want, sometimes it comes to you.
Speaker AAnd three weeks after her passing, I was diagnosed with a very aggressive formal cancer, malignant melanoma.
Speaker AAnd it was all my wife, my.
Speaker BWife'S, my wife's father died of malignant melanoma.
Speaker BSo I, I wasn't there then.
Speaker BBut anyway, keep going.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker AYeah, it's very aggressive and unpredictable as well.
Speaker ASo I couldn't believe it.
Speaker AWe were at the pool at home and like I say, I was always in the sun.
Speaker ASurfing, tennis, water skiing, sort of snorkeling, soccer.
Speaker AAnd, and I, I started to itch and I used to have longer hair and it bled.
Speaker ASo I called my wife and I said, look, I think I have a pimple here.
Speaker AI don't know what, what's going on?
Speaker AAnd she looked at it and she's in the, in the medical field and she goes, I don't like this George's.
Speaker AI'm going to.
Speaker AIt was Sunday, I'm going to call the kids dermatologist tomorrow.
Speaker AAnd if you get a chance to have a copy of my book, it's also an audio.
Speaker BTell me what it is.
Speaker BSo tell us what the name is and we'll do it again later.
Speaker BWhat's the name of the book?
Speaker AYes, yes.
Speaker AThe book is called Beating the My Journey Through Holistic Health to Overcome Advanced Cancer.
Speaker BBeating the Odds.
Speaker BAll right, we'll talk More about that later.
Speaker BBut anyway, she called the dermatologist and, yeah, she called.
Speaker AShe called and explained what was going on.
Speaker AThis was her assistant, and she says, look, she cannot see him for at least four weeks.
Speaker ASo she said, look, I don't like what he has.
Speaker AIt looks like his melanoma.
Speaker ASo can you put them on the waiting list and if somebody cancels, let me know.
Speaker AAnd I'm a person of faith.
Speaker AIt happened the next day.
Speaker AOn Tuesday, the lady called my wife and said, look, we have a cancellation for Tomorrow, Wednesday, it's 8 o'.
Speaker BClock.
Speaker AWe'll take it.
Speaker ASo we were there and everything there started a chain reaction.
Speaker AWhen she started looking at me, she goes, do you mind if we bring the resident doctors here today?
Speaker AThat really scared me.
Speaker AI'm thinking, oh, my goodness, it's not good.
Speaker ASo she started talking about the.
Speaker AThe shape of this stuff.
Speaker AIt was in the top of my skull.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd I thought, oh, man, this is not good.
Speaker ASo they left.
Speaker AShe did a biopsy, and that was Wednesday.
Speaker AOn Thursday morning, I'm waiting in my office.
Speaker AYou know, I had the door open, obviously, you know, I'm a CTO there.
Speaker AMy assistant says, hey, Dr. Trowers is on the.
Speaker AOn the line.
Speaker AHe wants to talk to you urgently.
Speaker AMan, I froze.
Speaker AI just said, oh, no.
Speaker AAll I could do, really, was thinking of my kids and my wife and my mother, that I couldn't mourn her.
Speaker AThree weeks before that, my diagnosis.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo she gets on the phone and she goes, Mr. Cordoba, I have bad news.
Speaker AYou have been diagnosed with malignant melanoma and it's ulcerated.
Speaker AI am faxing you.
Speaker AIt was 2002.
Speaker AI'm faxing you the report with the best two doctors, dermatologists, oncologists that you need to talk to immediately, because this disease is very aggressive, man.
Speaker AWhen we hanged up, the whole thing started in me.
Speaker AIt was like a roller coaster of emotions.
Speaker ANo, man, this was a mistake.
Speaker AI need another biopsy.
Speaker AWhy me?
Speaker AWhat's going to happen to my kids?
Speaker AAnd all this stuff that went on ultimately, in that particular morning, I was pacing from one side of my office to the other one.
Speaker AI guess it was my competitive spirit.
Speaker AAnd I just stopped and I said, no, no way, man.
Speaker AI'm going to be.
Speaker ABeat the odds and be the very first person in my family that beats this cancer thing, this monster.
Speaker AAnd I went on my journey, and after 10 years and 10 surgeries, including four brain surgeries, because I had eight tumors in my brain of melanoma, I beat the odds and Conquer A stage 4 melanoma with metastasis in the brain.
Speaker ABut the important thing that I want to share with you and your audience is that on year eight, I was broke, frustrated, kind of like just saying, fearless that I was going to spend my life in this loop.
Speaker ASurgery, treatment, remission, recurrence.
Speaker ASurgery, treatment, remission, recurrence.
Speaker ASo I had my first leap of faith, and I said, that's it.
Speaker AThey gave me.
Speaker AAfter my first craniotomy, which was from ear to ear, they gave me this new quote, unquote chemo that would penetrate the brain, and they gave it to me in capsules.
Speaker AEight years into this, you know, the cost of healthcare, I was broke.
Speaker AAnd they gave me these capsules that were $1,000 each.
Speaker ACapsule.
Speaker AOh, wow, okay.
Speaker AAnd I had to take one every day from Monday to Friday.
Speaker ARest Saturday and Sunday, and they start again on my second Monday.
Speaker AIn other words, my six capsule.
Speaker AI thought I was going to have a heart attack.
Speaker ANobody told me on potential reactions or whatever.
Speaker AAnd that caused an anxiety attack.
Speaker AAt the same time, my heart was pumping like he was going to explode.
Speaker ANobody at home, the kids in school, my wife working.
Speaker AI am a piano player.
Speaker AI did some conservatory work with that.
Speaker AAnd I tried to play the piano, but it didn't work.
Speaker AI was sweating.
Speaker ASo I actually lay down on the family room's couch and breathed my way to calm down.
Speaker AAnd when my wife came home, she said, what's going on?
Speaker AWhat's wrong?
Speaker AAnd I said, look, I'm not taking one of those pills anymore.
Speaker AShe goes, no, no, you gotta keep going.
Speaker ALook, do me a favor.
Speaker AI call.
Speaker AI already called Sophie, my.
Speaker AMy sister.
Speaker AShe's gonna pick up the kids, take me to church.
Speaker AI want to go to the chapel.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AThis was on a Thursday, I think, and she took me to church.
Speaker AI went to the chapel, and I went to the altar and kneeled there, and I cried my butt off.
Speaker AAnd I don't know for how long, but I surrendered at that moment.
Speaker AI surrendered helium.
Speaker AAnd my prayer was, lord, give me a chance to see my kids grow up, to go to high school.
Speaker AI mean, graduate from high school and my daughter to go into high school and to be a better Christian, a better father and husband.
Speaker AGive me the chance.
Speaker AAnd then I also said, look, you better than anyone knows that this stuff is not working for me.
Speaker AI don't know everybody else, but it's not working for me.
Speaker AAnd I'm tired.
Speaker AI cannot live my life like this.
Speaker AIt's a poor quality of Life.
Speaker ASo at that moment, asking for discernment, I made a decision that I was going to stop 100% conventional treatments.
Speaker AAnd I was going to go what I called God's Pharmacy or Mother Earth, Earth Pharmacy.
Speaker AAnd I told my wife on the way back to the house and she being in the medical world, she was thinking I was crazy, right?
Speaker AYou know, hey, probably that the, all the sewing and the hammering in your brain, you're not right.
Speaker AAnd I said, no, I am right and I know myself.
Speaker ALike you said before, we tend to lose our power, our inner self, our intuition, to the noise, to people telling you no, don't listen to yourself, listen to your teacher or the priest or your dad, your uncle.
Speaker AAnd we give that away, including when we go to an oncologist.
Speaker AAnd so, and I'm not having anything against that, good if people can't afford going to oncology.
Speaker ABut anyway, I went natural.
Speaker AI decided to go natural, jump into the holistic health journey to heal myself.
Speaker AAnd this 12th is July 12th.
Speaker ANext week it'll be my 13th year free of cancer.
Speaker ASo because of that, right as I was really seeing the, the light at the end of the tunnel, I, I decided, you know what, I, I'm basically starting my CTO career again, I think, and I don't have really enough money, but I had, I had like faith.
Speaker ALike you mentioned the mountain before.
Speaker AAnd I always, I always understood what he, what Jesus meant.
Speaker AThe, the famous biblical verse of the seed, the master seed.
Speaker AIf you have faith as little as a master feet, you will tell this mountain, mountain, move from here to there.
Speaker AAnd it would move.
Speaker AAnd guess what?
Speaker AAll of us have mountains to move throughout our lives.
Speaker AIt doesn't have to be a chronic disease or cancer or anything like that.
Speaker AAnything.
Speaker ADivorce, I don't know, a loss of a very dear person, somebody takes advantage of you and rubs on a business deal.
Speaker ALike he happened to me at one point.
Speaker ASo, you know, it's part of growing, like you said.
Speaker AAnd one of the things when I look back and I actually spend a little time on the book is that really had to take a 10 year battle with cancer and that to actually realize that my purpose wasn't to help companies be more productive through software and stuff, it was to help others.
Speaker ALike, I was born with that particular talent.
Speaker ABut the important thing with the tennis real quick is that when I went the holistic route and this is what I do today, I'm a cancer coach for using holistic health manners, is that my visualization.
Speaker AWhat is holistic, by the way?
Speaker AHolistic health, many people ask me, is when you treat the persons as a whole, their mind, their emotions, their body and their spirituality, that's holistic health versus, versus just going to the symptom and throwing the kitchen sink to the, to the symptom, which is really what, what we get with oncologists.
Speaker AI attended a meeting today with an amazing oncologist from New York.
Speaker AAnd I wish all the doctors were like her.
Speaker AShe's a new generation type of functional medicine type of person.
Speaker ABut it was great to see how now they're actually preparing some doctors with some more ammunition in nutrition and psychology and all the modalities that holistic health provide.
Speaker AMassage, energy work, all that stuff which I became, I became all those things.
Speaker AI'm a, I'll tell you later on, you'll see it in the, in the book.
Speaker AAnd the last thing I did for to add value for my clients is I became a hypnotherapist, which is really working on false beliefs that we have built since you were youngsters.
Speaker AAnd, and you know one thing that is very important for the audience to know, all disease, all diseases, no matter what disease, are emotional.
Speaker AAnd they all start on inflamed bodies, bodies that are acidic, acid that we create ourselves through stress, eating in a hurry, eating the wrong things and many other things.
Speaker AWe could spend hours on this.
Speaker ABut believe me, in my case, I worked.
Speaker AYou have to be humble, by the way, at that point, you know, somebody that was self centered with the tennis and all that.
Speaker AWhen I went to that chapel, I really surrendered and I said, I can't control this man.
Speaker AI just, you know, and you blessed me with five kids.
Speaker AI felt like job in the Bible.
Speaker AI said, what me?
Speaker AWhat's going on?
Speaker BRight, right, right, I get it.
Speaker ASo by the way, real quick.
Speaker ASo I started working on my emotional crowd clutter.
Speaker AAnd I, with a humbleness spirit, I went to those who hurt me through my life and guess what?
Speaker ANone of them remembered.
Speaker AAnd I was carrying all this venom on me for years and.
Speaker ABut any, in any case, they apologized and I felt like a piano when lifted off my shoulders.
Speaker ABut I went further.
Speaker AI went and looked for people that I thought I hurt and some that I was sure I heard a couple of girls and emotionally.
Speaker ABut in any case I heard them and so I went and they didn't remember except one.
Speaker AAnd obviously they forgave me.
Speaker AThat was another grand piano up on my shoulder.
Speaker AAnd then the third one and the hardest one was forgiving myself.
Speaker ABut I worked on all that clutter as well.
Speaker AAnd I have to share with you guys.
Speaker AAnd after that happened, I never had another recurrence.
Speaker ANo more recurrence.
Speaker AThat was the root cause of my disease.
Speaker AEmotional.
Speaker AAnd I had not a very acidic body because I was nutritionist.
Speaker AI did my minor in nutrition back in the day in school to have an edge in my competition.
Speaker ASo it wasn't new to me.
Speaker ABut the emotional stuff, and then I used my visualizations, all the stuff that I learned as a youngster to be a better player.
Speaker ASeeing myself winning, I was seeing myself.
Speaker AI would imagine this divine light coming through my head and just melting all the tumors around my body two or three times a day after a prayer.
Speaker AAnd then I would see this.
Speaker AMy favorite colors, two colors is light, light blue and light pink like the Jesus of Mercy.
Speaker AAnd so I would do that in.
Speaker AOn occasions, once a day, I will imagine the Pac man game, the creature of the Pac man game, going all around my body.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BGoing in there and eating the tumors.
Speaker AAll the tumors.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYou know, I want to ask you some questions.
Speaker BThank you for sharing all that story.
Speaker AStory.
Speaker BAnd it's wonderful.
Speaker BAnd you know, you said, I'll tell this real quick.
Speaker BIt's not about real quick.
Speaker BYou've said some profound and powerful things.
Speaker BAnd what I learned, and I want, really want the audience to learn, is he.
Speaker BIt's not about not using traditional medicine.
Speaker BIt's not about not having Dr. Not about that at all.
Speaker BBut what it is about is learning that there are much more powerful things at work here.
Speaker BCarrying the poison of anger towards others is corrosive.
Speaker BCarrying the poison of not forgiving yourself for mistakes.
Speaker BAnd yes, you got to try to fix them.
Speaker BBut after that, even still, and then carrying that poison literally poisons your spirit and trashes your body.
Speaker BAnd so your choice, and I've got the book here, Beating the Odds, My Journey Through Holistic Health to Overcome Advanced Cancer.
Speaker BAnd I would encourage you to go take a look at that whether you've got cancer or not.
Speaker BBecause what he said, and I know this is true, disease comes from our own being ill at ease, our own emotional state, our own out of balance thinking and all the rest.
Speaker BAnd doctors say all the time, if someone's sick in the hospital, the single biggest determinant about whether or not they get better is how bad they want to.
Speaker BAnd so that want to, if it does that much makes the difference between life and death and recovery and not recovering over and over again in the sickest of cases, then there is truth to this energetic body and Inflammation and whatever language we use, and you can call it gobbledygook if you want, but the truth is, your neurotransmitters, your attitude, the way you speak, the way you talk, all that stuff makes a huge difference.
Speaker BAnd George is here is a miraculous testament and evidence to that effect.
Speaker BSo thank you for sharing that story.
Speaker BAnd now being 13 years, I think you said cancer free.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BWhat a Blessing.
Speaker BAfter, what, eight years of aggressive treatment and recurrence.
Speaker AEight years of treatment and 10 years, because still I had two more surgeries there.
Speaker ATwo more.
Speaker BOkay, so 10 years of work and 13 years free.
Speaker BSo you're over the hump.
Speaker BYou're more years free than you had to fight.
Speaker BWhat a blessing.
Speaker AAnd I have to.
Speaker AI need to share this.
Speaker ATwo of my eight brain tumors were not operable.
Speaker AThey were too big for Gamma Knife.
Speaker AI had two gamma knives on top of the four craniotomies.
Speaker ABut those two were too big for Gamma Knives, and they were not operable.
Speaker AThey were in my back lobe and said, well, we're just gonna have to watch them.
Speaker AAnd I have to say, I'm not gonna say that much, so you can read it in the book.
Speaker ABut that's a miracle.
Speaker AAnd that's because of faith, because of prayer.
Speaker AGoing to prayer groups and open.
Speaker AOpening myself to receive, which is harder than giving.
Speaker AAnd that's something else that I explain in the book.
Speaker BI want you to know, Georges, that I totally agree with you.
Speaker BOur intentions, our expressions to the divine, our willingness to surrender.
Speaker BSurrender is not abdication and it's not giving up.
Speaker BSurrender simply means you realize that at the end of the day, you don't know anything.
Speaker BAnd to be willing to take action in the absence of knowledge and simply to trust that there is a way while you seek, whether it's spiritual guidance or whether it's medical guidance, but coming instead of with an attitude of, I'm screwed.
Speaker BWith an attitude of, there's gotta be a way.
Speaker BAnd I believe this.
Speaker BAnd to move in that moment of surrender, I just empathize with that so much.
Speaker BSo thank you.
Speaker BYes, you are a miracle.
Speaker BYes, it is because of your belief.
Speaker BYes, it is because of your relationship with the divine and your willingness to trust.
Speaker BAnd your mission right now with the book and work that you do with clients is to help them, whether it's cancer or not, to understand that they create, each of us, creates our reality.
Speaker BSo why not create a beautiful circumstance, a pleasant meadow, a wonderful life, even if there's bumps in the road?
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BSo tell us where to find out about more.
Speaker BMore about you.
Speaker BYour book Beating the odds.
Speaker BMy journey through holistic health to overcome advanced cancer.
Speaker BI found it really easily.
Speaker BI didn't look it up ahead of time.
Speaker BHe said beating the odds.
Speaker BI went there, it was on my screen.
Speaker BSo very good.
Speaker BGo ahead.
Speaker AI shared my email so you can share with the audience and I'm going to send you a couple of links.
Speaker AI have a giveaway for the audience or for you, an ebook that I wrote based on my experience with a naturopath when I decided to go natural.
Speaker AAnd the title of this ebook, I always give it as a giveaway, is a balanced PH and your health.
Speaker AIf you manage to have a balanced pH, disease will not grow on you.
Speaker AI mean, you won't even get a cold.
Speaker AAnd if you have a disease and you managed your way back to a balanced pH, not an acidic body, you're destroying the environment that your disease strives to live in.
Speaker ANo matter what chronic disease, it's all acidity that they look for.
Speaker ASo in that little book you have some, some juicy information and what I do with my clients, I teach them how to, how to order in our restaurant, Balanced Ph plate.
Speaker AIn this ebook I have a table that will tell you which foods are acidic and which foods are alkaline.
Speaker ASo you can actually play with that and you help yourself, you help the doctor eliminate the environment in a natural way.
Speaker ALiving in the environment that these cells, whatever the disease is, they strive to live.
Speaker AI did that and that worked a lot for me.
Speaker ASo if you again, look at it as a whole, I have this metaphor of a four legged table.
Speaker AOne of the legs is your physical self.
Speaker AThe other one is your emotional self.
Speaker AThe third one is your mindset.
Speaker AYour mindset.
Speaker AAnd then the fourth one is your soul, your spirituality.
Speaker AAnd not necessarily, I'm not saying it's religion.
Speaker AYou know, you could be religious and not spiritual.
Speaker AYou could be spiritual or not religious or you could be both.
Speaker ALike in my case, I grew up as a Christian in the, in the Catholic Church.
Speaker AMy family from the Greek side were Orthodox.
Speaker ABut you know that the important thing there is this one God.
Speaker AAnd then the messages that you get, my, my best coach is, is Jesus as a man?
Speaker AI have to, I don't, I'm not, I'm not embarrassed to say that because that was a key component in my healing.
Speaker ABut it's a four legs of the table.
Speaker BS P E M. Spiritual, physical, emotional, mental.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BAnd I use that same acronym.
Speaker BSo I use, I use the spiritual, physical, emotional, mental, SPEM is the acronym I use.
Speaker BI teach people how to use a morning routine and all that.
Speaker BSo the email is coach.georges g e o r g e s at qualitiva q u-a l e t I v a.com coach georgiosualitiva.com we'll publish that also but please go there.
Speaker BGeorgeous thank you.
Speaker AYeah and I'll send you the link for the giveaway.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BI want to really thank you.
Speaker BYou've given us a beautiful story.
Speaker BYou've shared your heart with us and taught us why choosing to listen to our natures to love and service so important.
Speaker BThanks for being with me today.
Speaker AThank you for having me in the show.
Speaker AI really appreciate this.
Speaker BYou are welcome.
Speaker BListeners, my friends, my followers, I want you to listen.
Speaker BI bring on guests for a reason and every one of them has a story about how to create a life they want you want.
Speaker BYou have that ability.
Speaker BYou don't have to be magic.
Speaker BYou don't have to be lucky.
Speaker BYou have to decide and you have to be willing to do the work because nobody falls up the mountain.
Speaker BAnd if you're willing to go find what you need, follow George, read the book and see how you can move forward to create your ultimate life right here, right now.
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