THE HARDEST TRUTH: YOU CREATED THE PERSON YOU NOW NEED TO BURY

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Of the hype about living a dream. It's time for truth. This is the place for tools, power and real talk. So you can create the life you dream and deserve your ultimate life.Subscribe, share, create. You have infinite power. Hello. Hey there. Welcome to today's episode of youf Ultimate Life, the podcast that he has created for you, the listener.To create a life, a whole life, a complete embodied life, whether it's your physical stuff, your financial stuff, your family, whatever it is that's rooted. And your experience every day is purpose, prosperity and joy.And the way you do that is by using your own life experience and your gifts and your, your skills and all those kinds of things. And so today I have a special guest, Kaylee. Kaylee, welcome to the show.

Thank you very much. So glad to be here, Kelly.

You're welcome. And I know just recently we did a LA talk radio show as we record this, but this isn't going to be out till the end of November somewhere.And I gave you the date, doesn't matter, but it's going to be a while. And so we were talking just before the show about whether or not this is going to be different than the LA talk radio show. And I said yes, it was.And we started talking about the teaching and that the only way to teach is the embodiment.And you were explaining something to me that I stopped you and I want to get here on the show and in the process of this, like, I don't do introductions and we'll get that as we go. You're a powerful creator. You've written a book and published a book through us, a book challenge that I have.And if you're Interested, it's@dreambuildriteit.com I don't have that URL up here. I do sometimes, but not today. And you were saying something about a whole life thing and I stopped you because that is the key. Life is not segments.It's not this piece and that piece. And you know, we talk about it in different chunks. People have 12 part wheels and all that crap, but we only have one life and we're one person.So when you think about your work and right where I stopped you, tell me what it is that you have, that's this whole body system and integration. Talk about that.

Yeah, well, okay, so first I will say, I will get to that answer, but it may, it may take a while to get there. So.But you were mentioning something about our profession, you know, our, you know us as coaches and essentially the survival of that and what that will mean, what we will need to do and which, you know, completely on board. Really, what you were saying is true authenticity and showing up as who you're saying you are needs to be a part of that.And in order to, in order for that to happen, you, you, us as the coaches, us as the teachers need to be living in the way that we're saying and that, that we're, we're trying to promote. And so, and basically you're like, all right, so let's, let's, let's talk about that on the show today.And you know, what came over me in that moment is that, okay, so what I've created in the renewable you method, which I'll get to, is really a full body, whole person practice. You know, it is all about the body, the mind, the spirit, leading, really looking at oneself first and starting from a point of oneself.And so when I think about me personally embodying all of my teachings, you know, initially what comes over me is, oh, my God, like, I'm not, you know, like I'm, I'm, I'm definitely a human and a living, walking, breathing example of what a human is and that some things I am doing well and some things, you know, I need to work on. So initially a little panic comes over me when I think about, you know, needing to embody the things that I'm teaching, you know, all of the time.But, you know, as, you know, you know, also being a human, it's not about perfection.And that's certainly something that I explore in my book and some, and something that I've, you know, actively work on and have overcome, you know, to a large degree from how I was in the past. And it is that sort of need to feel like I'm doing everything well. And so, you know, what that often shows up as is performance.And so essentially what I, you know, the performance piece comes from a place of being very disconnected from who, from who I am and who I would, you know.

So it sounds like you're telling me, yeah, tell.I know I'm interrupting you, but it sounds like you're trying to make the distinction between being perfect and having it all together and being real and authentically in progress.

That's right. That's absolutely right. That's absolutely right.And you know, being, not being real, you know, is a sort of disconnection, which really is what this is all about, like helping you or really showing how being more connected to you is the starting point for all of us and for really all of Humanity.

So you have a book. It's called the Renewable You. It's a beautiful book.I had the chance to both read it and participate in helping you get it into the world, and you're creating some products and stuff behind it.As I read the book, I was distinctly at one point, your exact avatar in terms of someone who had the obsessive need to be right all the time to have it figured out that everything that was broken around me was somehow my fault. I should have anticipated and known that. And if I hadn't, it mean I'd screwed up in some meaningful way. And to the.To the extent that if anybody around me, family, kids, you know, I've been married and divorced three times, and a lot of this, you know, is my own creation. But the. The anticipation that if anything was not right, I should have known it and anticipated it and fixed it ahead of time.And if I hadn't, it was not only, oh, too bad, but it was something foundationally wrong with me. You know, it was that level of disease that I owned that you address carefully.And the process that you've just described, which is being open, vulnerable, authentically human, and actually engaged in the process of humanity, which is the process of growth, love, service in an authentic instead of a pretend way, or we can call it a performative way when we're performing a part, is a disease that I suffered with disastrously. And you did, too, in your way. It's one of the things that gave rise to this book.So I just wanted to say that as I read it, I recognized myself very clearly in a different incarnation of Kellen. So what is it that. And what I told you is I want you to teach me.So assuming I'd come to you not even really knowing what was wrong, but knowing I was busted as hell because for me, it involved drugs and all kinds of other stuff. But it doesn't matter what it involves.Like, what is the difference and how do you identify and work with it, between being authentically engaged in improving myself and being better, and the idea to have to prove it to everybody outside in some artificial way that gives rise to this inauthenticity and performance.

Yeah. So, you know, we. We. We, you and I would talk about, you know, I'd want to hear a little more about your story if we were.If we were actually going to be working together. So I tend to approach this work in story, you know, more so than in specific goals that. That. That one. That one has.Like, I like to get kind of a fuller picture of what you see and, and you know, and reflect that back to you essentially. But, you know, generally speaking, I'm.I'd be really curious about how you, you know, where you turn your energy to like what you spend your attention on, you know, during the day, like how you spend your thoughts, when. What are you thinking of? What are you tuning into essentially?

And I like to get for me. Yeah, just do something for me. I hated myself. I hated the life that I had. I hated everybody that I felt like had their hooks in me.I felt guilty at the same time because I shouldn't hate them. I should love them and be caring for them and I have to go do whatever the hell it is that I do.In my case, I was a big shot executive and made a lot of money and had to keep doing that because that's what I was supposed to be doing. And so I was torn between the feeling that nobody knew me at all, nobody gave a crap as long as I did the thing I was supposed to do.And I hated that conflict.

And I'm curious, the nobody knew me part, what is that me part that you're lamenting that nobody knows? Well.

I didn't have the sense of that anybody ask ever about who I was, what I was feeling or doing. I had just adopted these roles and therefore I should do them.And I had to do them really well, regardless of anything else, regardless of, you know, where you get to a place where you are in a job and you hate it and you don't want to do it and you want, you know, maybe you want to do something else or whatever because it's like eating your life. It feels like I have to keep doing this, sort of that and then sort of in a resigned way feeling like, well, I have no choice.This is just where I am and I have to keep doing this.

I'm doing this thing I don't really care about, you know, and I'm just going to keep doing it because either I have a responsibility to do it because of the work or responsibility to other people to do it because, you know, know, whatever, I'm responsible for them. But, you know, there's this piece of me that nobody really gives a about, like nobody's paying attention to.You know, maybe you didn't say this part, but maybe there's some questioning in my head about that person too. Like, who is that person worth anything? You know, are they, do they, do they have a purpose?So that might be a question that, that you're holding on to too. So I, you know, I'd be very curious again to. To understand who that per. Who that person is that you're holding and to know a little bit more about.

Yeah, the other thing that was funny, I wanted to be. I was really, really gifted with musical talent. Okay. From my youth. I played four or five or six different instruments. I did really well at stuff.I have perfect pitch. I'm really good at arranging and leading people and motivating choirs, and I did all that kind of stuff.But that was deemed not okay except in the context of either community service or church. So I was pushed away from doing that. I wanted to do that, you know, I wanted to make records and make music and I wanted to be that.And that was considered evil. So that person was, well, that great, fabulous talent, which is like extraordinary. It's okay as long as you're only doing this with it.But if you tried to be professional or turn it to have it be your life, it's not okay in the context of my upbringing, because musicians are all bad.

When did you. When did you enjoy that work? Like. Like when was this? In high school or. Yeah, you know, when.

When all the way through. I was about 21.I really wanted to do that, but the indoctrination from my upbringing and everything else was that that was a good talent to use for service and church and community and stuff. But you got to have a regular thing because musicians travel, they're all drunk, they cheat on their spouses.There's too much bad stuff in that world. And I principally, my mom. I don't want that for you or for your life because, and you'll thank me later, that kind of thing, right?And so the ultimate choice that I made at first, at about, you know, I had the conflict. I opened a recording studio for many years in Phoenix, and finally I closed that down because it got big enough that I had to really make a choice.I was working two full time gigs and I had to either put the life into the music or pursue the corporate.And because both my wife at the time and my mom hated that idea and I had no one to, you know, turn to, I chose to shut that down and eventually it destroyed me. So the conflict that you're describing was a very real visceral thing for me in those years.And I don't want to hijack this to be all about Kellen, but I want to use that as a context for.I mean, you can do whatever you want, but I wanted you to teach us the principles that you learned from your experience and so I'm happy to answer questions and use whatever will be valuable for the listeners. Or you can talk as much about your own experience as you need to.My goal is to have the listeners understand that what you teach is grounded in truth.It's grounded in real world experience, and it produces real results that give a person peace, control over their own lives and their ability to pursue a balanced and fulfilling life.

Yeah, I. I will. I will try. The challenge that I'm experiencing is now I'm super interested in. In. In working with.Not working with you, like as a client or anything like that, but like having a. A genuine session in a way more so than. I mean, it's. Yeah, I guess I'm separate.Trying to separate how to walk through my pillars, in theory, with a person that's not actually getting.

Well, then walk through them in real life. Go ahead. I'm okay to do that.I just want you to be able to express the most powerful and beautiful way, because what I want the listeners to learn is the truth. And your own journey through your own breakdown and your own burnout and your own experience taught you these things.And what I was thinking is, you can use me if you want to, because it's here and I have it. And I recognize myself in those years past as one who was a victim of all that supposed to stuff. So we can do that if you like.

Okay. Oh, my gosh. I'm so new to podcasting, hopefully. Are you going to cut all this?

No, I'm not going to cut any of it out. This is a conversation about the reality of the truth of what you teach. If you were in a session with somebody, you wouldn't worry about.Well, can we cut that last conversation?

Oh, no, not at all. I'm just trying to.

Don't worry about it.

Yeah, I actually love that conversation that we were having. I'm just.

All right, well, then let's have it go. And so that. Yeah, I shut down the studio in 1995. 92. I mean, 1992.For the next eight years, until 2000, it felt like I built a whole life on top of a rotten cellar and first floor.And I just sort of paved over it all with concrete and built another life that was very, very successful until in 2000, I fell apart and just completely got lost in drugs and alcohol and rehab and addictions and destruction because of the. What was then now decades long. It was conflict on the surface until I buried one of them completely and left it buried for eight years.And that destroyed everything.

I'm curious, you mentioned the music part. Was that. Would you say that was the having to sort of push that part of you down?Was that the challenge, the main issue that was causing all of this other disruption and disconnection?

It felt like it to me, but it was in the context of you have family, you're married, you have kids, your first obligation is to them. So, so whatever the hell it is you want and want to be and want to think and want to do doesn't matter. It's all second. Da, da, da.And I wasn't trying to deny any responsibility. It was just, how do I want to show up in the world doing these other things? No, those things suck. You need to do it this way.And I happen to have been able to create a really successful executive and consulting career, you know, in two countries and big shot this and that and the other that I didn't really give a crap about, I just happened to be really good at.

And that, that, that what, that is what happens. Right?

That's, that's exactly what happened.

As I'm listening to you, you know, of course, you know, I'm thinking of my own experience, but which is, which is a very different story. You know, I, I guess I would say I had success too in the parenting realm.You know, not, you know, it was different, different area of life, you know, than, than the corporate, you know, high executive route and, but it's, it's similar, you know, where there's a sort of losing of yourself by doing that which you think you should do and that you feel obligated to do.Well, like in my case, I definitely had a loving family, but you know, I had a single, my, a mother and you know, who is, you know, very scrappy in, in her, you know, trying to get us raised well and, but I found myself in, you know, married with, you know, several, with four kids in, in a privileged, you know, position. So I felt that I needed to be and do. And show up much younger, you know, all, all in.In the parenting and, and, and do it, you know, a million times better and oh. And so over perform.And so what that meant was, yes, there was a sort of disconnection from those things that I loved which, you know, were really exploring, exploring the world, talking to, you know, traveling in and speaking with people, just connecting with people sort of more fully. Art, I certainly put that to the side.I put my career to the side up until recently and which, you know, kind of brings the two together, both art and connecting with folks. And so yeah, I Think a large part of that sort of pushing down is what creates this sort of dissonance and unhappiness and can lead to.

So this is fabulous. Yeah. So you look at the circumstance I had, which was real. You look at the circumstance you had, which was real.And if you change the names and things, it didn't mean that you weren't going to be a good parent, and it didn't mean that I wasn't going to take care of my obligations either.But you were sacrificing your ability or willingness or thought that you could nest, whatever it is to be a good parent while you had the opportunity to explore the gifts, talents and expressions that you wanted to do.And you felt like you not only had to do it a certain other way, but you had to over perform and do it a million times better and be like, all in, all over the place. Which certainly mirrors my own. I had to have everything else tuned up.So the cause of the crash, meaning the lack of your or my ability to continue in a role that feels ill fit. Like I'm wearing this suit that chafes and it just doesn't fit anymore.And pretty soon the blisters get too big and the discomfort gets so gross and painful that something explodes. And mine exploded a certain way and so did yours. And now we get to the core of what you want to teach us all, which is a. You don't have to do that.It's not either or. And there is a renewable and sustainable way to live.

Absolutely. And it's.Well, I was going to say it starts with, you know, what I was speaking of earlier and is that that's paying attention to where your attention flows. Right. But really it's. There's. There's a. There's a start before that, there's a catalyst before that.In some instances, it's, you know, you know, like in my case, losing a. Losing a job where you're kind of thrust into. Okay, let me. I need to figure this out. You know, I really want to figure this out.Or, you know, it's a spark that you're just tired.You know, that's why I do speak with, especially lately, you know, women who are just tired of existing and not really considering what they want and they know. And that's the other piece. It's not, you know, it's.It's not a sort of reinvention in a way of rediscovering this person who suddenly appears out of nowhere and. And is going to change your life, but really it's a. It becomes an uncovering or an unmasking of that which, you know, really gave me life before.And it starts with paying attention to the things that you, you know, pay attention that you've been, you know, putting your attention to. Sometimes, you know, what.What comes out of that is, yeah, I spent a lot of time solving problems for, you know, my partner, solving problems for, you know, the. The company that I'm working with.And then I come home and I, you know, I know that I'm supposed to not just sit down and watch TV or, you know, and veg out. I know I'm supposed to be doing other things, but I just don't have the energy to do that. I don't have that.Well, usually the what said is I don't have the time to do it.And so then that, you know, takes us into, you know, a different exploration, which is, okay, let's talk about time, and let's talk about, you know, how that's being. How you're. How you're using that, how you're spending. Spending it really.

It seems like what you've described is two instances of not like you had a job where you were doing really well and you were doing what you were supposed to do there.You didn't say, but I didn't get the sense that the job that you had was hitting all the cylinders of who you really wanted to be, but you were doing it because you were supposed to, which means make money and do something.And then you came home and had more things you were supposed to do, and you found yourself tired, exhausted, or out of energy, out of ideas, out of creativity. And so I don't know.Correct me if this is wrong, but there were two baskets of supposed to, and neither one of them seemed like they were landing in the sweet spot.

Yeah, I mean, in that. That example, I was referring to, not to myself, but, yeah, I definitely had that experience. I think for me, when I came home, it was less def.Less about sitting in front of Netflix because I don't even know when people have the time to watch it. But I also have four children.So when I come home, it's not that it's job number two, which is managing the house, but, yeah, that certainly comes into play. Having to put. Put yourself on the back burner. Yeah.

So tell me what you do first. You said the first thing you do is become aware of, be willing to take an inventory of where your time, attention, and love is focused today.So if I look at the last week or two, like where are all my hours going? How many of them are hours of real dedication or hours of obligation? Like, where am I giving my life to?

That's right. And so what I would. What I call it is an energy audit. So we would sit.We would work through that to kind of, you know, have a better picture of your time and energy, which are different things. Right. So sometimes we may say, I have. I'm going to do just these two things today, and that should be fine. Like, it's just two things. Right.But those two things can require such large energy. There are large energy pools that we don't even realize how much they are. Or it could be even small. Like, for example, a lot of parents could.Can attest to being sort of the Uber driver of their family, you know.And so when you're just needing to drive up the street, you know, five, 10 minutes away to pick up your kid, to take them somewhere, you know, that's not just minutes used.I mean, that's also energy expended, taken away from the work that you were doing or, you know, whatever it was you were doing or you want to do that we don't really account for when we're thinking of, you know, how our energy is flowing through the day. So how much. So, yes, so that's absolutely something. So reclaiming that time and energy, that's.And by the way, you know, these steps that I'm walking, they're not, you know, they're not iterative in the sense that you need to do one and then the next and then the next. You know, quite often, you know, once, you know, I. I talk to someone, it could be that we start from, you know, not from the top, not from reclaim.

But is there a place, Is there a place in here for, like.This is a perfect example because we've had here in our home a refugee family for three and a half years, a Ukrainian mother and daughter, and they've just moved out about a month ago. And that was always the plan eventually for her to get her place, everything else.But one of the things that, you know, ended up happening was lots of chauffeuring because mom was at work, and so we were sort of the daycare after school and all that kind of stuff.And the time that it takes is one thing, but if the energy you have in doing a thing, running an errand, chauffeuring or something isn't like all in, but is full of. I got this thing, it's going to take a half an hour full of that kind of energy. Then it feels to me like it's draining twice.Once because you got to take the time, and two because you have this idea. This isn't what I wanted to be doing anyway.

Yeah, I love that, Kellen. So you're getting more into integration and how different aspects of doing or being human, how they interplay.

All right, well, give me the framework. Give our audience the framework.You have four or five steps that are the pillars, and you said you don't have to start at the top, but you do have them in a certain order, so that's okay. So tell me what they are.

Yes, certain order. Because we love a good acronym. Right. So this is. First of all, it's the renewable you method. And the acronym for it is real.Er, so real with R. And the first step is what we. What we went through, what we discussed already, which is, you know, reclaim.And so that's paying attention to your attention and your energy, where your energy is flowing. We also. There's also ease, which really helps us to create the condition for energy flow.So it's getting quiet throughout the day, throughout the week, so that we can open up space for. To accept the chaos. I shouldn't say the chaos. I just. But so we can better adjust to life and what life sort of throws at us. Right.

What does the E stand for?

The E stands for ease. Right, so ease. For ease. Right. So it's reclaiming, then ease. So, you know, using stillness as a strategy.

So let me ask you a question about that. So ease. Somebody could say ease. So all of a sudden, something's easy.What it feels like you're saying to me, and I think it's way more powerful, is I take an energy audit, I reclaim. I figure out where all my energy and attention, my time and attention are going. And the ease would seem to me, the way you've described it to be.I give myself permission to explore without drama or judgment in that space of stillness, whether I like where it all is going, whether I want this to be my distribution. In other words, here's my 168 hours in the week and my 168 hours of time, 168 hours of attention, energy and love.And I'm going to be still and be quiet, but also okay with a truthful conversation, an easy conversation about whether or not, when I look at it, this is really what I meant.

Is that true?

Or am I way off the. Way off the mark?

No, I think. I think it's true in the big picture, sort of, you know, eagle eye view, of, of what you're trying to do. Yeah, absolutely.You know, and it's sort of, you know, more, I guess. What is it? I always confuse my metaphors, but is it like the bird's eye, the close eyed view of, of things? It's throughout your day.Like are you giving your time, your, your body, you know, and, and mine enough space to be, to rest, to not be active, to even allow for new thoughts, to allow for. Yeah. New ideas to even come into.

So is the ease you said there's that are so stillness so that I can have space for ease?

Yes, it's stillness. It's stillness. Getting still, getting still.So in using stillness as a strategy, not as a point of, oh, I'm being lazy or weak or you know, not powerful in this moment because I'm not showing up and doing things. I'm, you know, I'm sitting, I'm, you know, resting. Which for a lot of us is taboo. I mean, not to be hyperbolic, but is revolutionary.

Yes, taboo. You're not supposed to do that. Right?

Not supposed to do that.So it's, this is, you know, this is acknowledging the necessity of doing that and how, how, you know, doing that interplays into the bigger picture of creating this person in this life that we want to create. So ease is, is important to that for that attune, which is the a is honoring the idea that we go beyond our sort of cognitive brain intelligence.Right. This is another something else that in our culture is kind of heralded as, you know, the, the. The king of, of. Of.Of everything like our, our thinking and our ability to think and, and be smart and you know, remember and process. Right. But that often comes at a, at a cost of not honoring our other intelligences that we.Which is or are our intuitive intelligence and our somatic or our body intelligence. Right. So if we allow ourselves to learn how to one accept that, and this isn't me telling you that these exist.This is like scientifically these other, you know, types of intelligence exist.But if we allow ourselves to, to accept and embrace that and then to begin to sort of tap into those intelligences, you know, ourselves, then we can, you know, better process, you know, problems if you want to process problems all the time. But we can also, you know, just better understand what we're feeling so that we can use that as a legitimate guide to.

Well, that makes sense that it would come after E. Because I can't tune in or attune myself to somatic or spiritual or other intelligence which we all know exists like, you don't. I mean, anybody here that is going to go look for a bunch of scientific evidence for that is.You're welcome to do that, but you know, intuitively that there are things outside of your own ability and that the body keeps the score, which is the name of a good book, by the way. So you have a reclaim. You have allow yourself to create a space or ease, stillness and quiet.And the outcome of that is you now have space to attune to these other pieces of input and wisdom that might serve you.

That's right. And that takes us to leading from a place of alignment.You know, we have then more information about where we're coming from, like who we are and where we're coming from and to really lead.And it, you know, doesn't mean to, like, lead all of, you know, lead teams, although super helpful there, but lead in really just showing up, you know, as who I authentically feel myself to be. So what lead taps into is also getting clear about what's important to you. You know, what. What. What you value. Right.So this is the values piece where, you know, where, you know, by. By this point, you would have understood the things that you pay attention to because. Right.We could say that we value a thing, and then our attention, where our attention goes, tells us quite something else.

Yeah. When people say something's important, I say, well, show me your calendar and show me your bank account, and I'll tell you what's important to you.

Exactly, Exactly. Exactly.

Assuming, of course, the Kellenish, you know.

Right. And I want to say that Kellen, too, is, you know, this. That. That doesn't come from a place of criticism. And I know that that can also. That can be.Often be a source of shame for people, you know, to feel like, oh, God, you know, I really want to say that I value this, but, you know, I'm not really showing up that way. Well, you know, it's not. You don't need to come. Come at it from a point of shame, you know, but.Or I should say, and, you know, there's a way to sort of realign the two so that. So that, you know, you are showing up. This is what this is all about.

Yeah. Any. Any. Any growth program can either be used as an indictment, in which case all we do is hate ourselves and fail, or.Or it can be used as an opportunity for growth and improvement when we treat all the stuff as interesting data points from which to move, instead of an indictment on our worth or character or something.

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Which perfectly Takes us to reframe, which is the final pillar. And this is, I like to call it the Mama Daddy pillar.This is, you know, where we really talk about mindset, right and, and being aware and responsible for. For those thoughts that come into our mind and how we act on those thoughts or not act on those thoughts.This is really, this is really where we begin to shift actively from understanding ourselves as extract extracted vessels from a point of extraction to the possibility of, you know, renewal and regeneration.

We didn't really talk about that. We did on the other show, but here we didn't talk about.I love your title the renewable you which is like thinking about renewable energy and versus extractive where we dig holes in the world and make messes and as opposed to having a renewable source and you know, where you recapture or reclaim, you create a space ease and then are allowed to attune into the greater wisdom and then a lot start with yourself leadership and from those places you're allowed to reframe. Not allowed. You have the power to reframe in a positive, growth oriented way. As you've walked through that and I think back to my own situation.If I had had someone, if I'd had this information and someone that would have helped me because I was a mess for those years, if I had had this, any of these practices or this stream of practices, it's not difficult for me to see that I would have been able to create a different path instead of, you know, where I went. And I say that by way of endorsement. It's easy for me to see, as you've explained, those.What I did do, what I didn't do, where I could have gone and where I went instead.And how do you help your clients, people that look to you as someone who's walked this road to help them avoid more serious problems or breakdowns by applying this. How do you work with people to do that?

Yeah, well, you know, I think that, well, the first thing is just to become, you know, aware that it can stop here and we get clear on the vision that they do have if they have know usually, you know, as you were talking about your experience and having to give away or give up the sort of the music musicianship of, of your experience. I mean you have an idea of who you. Who would have been your best self, what you would have loved like who you wanted to be, what you wanted to do.And so sometimes just giving folks permission oftentimes to really think that through and to expound on that piece, that vision of who they see Themselves is a. Is a. Is a great starting point. That's where we start.Whether it's an individual or whether I'm working with a leader and they're talking about their teams. It's like, okay, let's. Let's think about, you know, if you had. If your. Your, you know, magic wand moment and, you know, you.You could envision, you know, from sight, from, you know, smell, from, you know, even textures. Like, what would be different in this moment? Let's. Let's begin to paint that picture.And quite often there's a blank slate, there's a white piece of paper of. I don't know, I haven't even had.

Time to worry about it. I don't know, that kind of thing.

Right, exactly. And again, that's also a place of. For some folks, some shame of I should know and why don't I know?

That would have been me. Yeah.

Right, right. And, you know, I mean, maybe some of that is good for therapy, but I don't, you know, I don't spend too much time in that.We need to, you know, figure out. Figure it out and create it. If you don't know. I'm all about, you know, if you want to do something, if you want to be something, then be it.And let's. Let's create it. And so that's where the sort of.I mentioned before, the artistic piece comes in to play, which we don't really think of our lives as being like this thing that we get to create. We think of it as something that sort of happens. But giving permission to allow this space, you know, this to. To also be a space of. Of.Of play and creation is. Is often how I like to start to.

I love that. And I want everybody that's listening to hear that. Allow yourself to create. You do create your life.Most of us create it from obligation and from simply allowing the crap that's going on around us to define everything from how we feel to what we're supposed to do next. And you've painted a picture of starting from a blank piece of paper. What would you draw? What would you put on there? Like, what are you drawn to?And I love the fact that you said, don't just sit there forever and worry about what should already be on the paper. There's nothing there. So start over. Start now. Start with that and go create.If somebody wants right now to have you help them and they recognize themselves in this story, what would they do? Where do they go to get a hold of you or talk to you?

Yes. You know, please, you can send me a direct email. That's it's super easy. Kaylee k a l I@the earthy executive.com you can send me an email.I'm also very active on LinkedIn so it's my full name, Kayleigh Fields with Williams on LinkedIn. You can send me a DM there and we can, you know, I would love to meet you and we can get started there.

You know, I can tell you listeners that I know Kaylee from having worked with her writing this book and having interviewed her before and just haven't talked to her a number of times. And I testify or attest to her, her openness, her authenticity and her skill with these, with these practices and her desire to help.Those who are tired of one way and want to create a new way are asking the question is this really what life is supposed to feel like, you know, after X number of years or whatever? So Kaylee, I want to thank you for sharing your book the Renewable you System, which is realer and your heart with us here today.

Thanks so much Kellen. It's been fun as always.

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