Sept. 30, 2025

The Two Greatest Fears Destroying Your Life

The Two Greatest Fears Destroying Your Life

🚨 LIFE-CHANGING REVELATION: After 61 years of studying human behavior and voice, Arthur Joseph reveals the two greatest fears that are secretly destroying your potential - and most people don't even know they have them.

In this explosive conversation, you'll discover:

  • The two fears that control 99% of human behavior.
  • Why claiming your greatness terrifies you more than failure.
  • How your voice reveals your deepest limitations (and how to break them).
  • The shocking truth about why you seek approval instead of authenticity.
  • How 33 Pro Football Hall of Fame athletes transformed through voice work.

This isn't just about speaking better. This is about claiming who you really are.

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Get the "New Form of Mastery Journal" and 168-Hour Matrix.


Chapters

00:00 - Untitled

00:08 - Introduction to the Show

08:27 - The Power of Choice in Voice and Life

20:55 - The Seven Habits of Vocal Awareness

29:23 - The First Ritual: Gratitude and Connection

36:25 - The Power of Claiming Your Voice

Transcript
Speaker A

Show a minute.

Speaker B

I'm interrupting.

Speaker B

Even at the beginning of your show, I'm so arrogant and rude, apparently.

Speaker A

Welcome to the show.

Speaker A

Tired of the hype about living the dream?

Speaker A

It's time for truth.

Speaker A

This is the place for tools, power and real talk so you can create the life you dream and deserve your ultimate life.

Speaker A

Subscribe, share, create.

Speaker A

You have infinite power.

Speaker A

Power.

Speaker A

Hello there and welcome to your ultimate life, the podcast Committed, dedicated to helping you create a life of purpose, prosperity and joy by serving with gifts, talents and life experience.

Speaker A

Today I have a special guest, Arthur Joseph, who's going to teach us all kinds of cool stuff about energy, about voice, and more that I don't even know.

Speaker A

Welcome to the show, Arthur.

Speaker B

Well, thank you for having me.

Speaker B

Kellen.

Speaker B

How are you, sir?

Speaker A

I'm just outrageous.

Speaker A

I'm grateful to be here with you and glad to be a little vehicle to help you spread your message in the world.

Speaker B

And I for you as well.

Speaker B

I know your goal.

Speaker B

Mine is being to world, to voice.

Speaker B

Yours is to reach 300 million people.

Speaker B

So we're both on the same path, man.

Speaker A

We are exactly on the same path.

Speaker A

And I love being here with you.

Speaker A

So I'm going to.

Speaker B

I'm interrupting.

Speaker B

Even at the beginning of your show, I. I'm so arrogant and rude.

Speaker B

Apparently I just do this.

Speaker B

But I haven't missed a day of meditation or prayer in 58 years.

Speaker B

And I share that because decades ago when I was inducted into Transcendental meditation, I went to a lecture by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who created tm.

Speaker B

And I heard him say that he wanted to have a billion meditators on the planet to shift the vibration of the planet.

Speaker B

You and I have similar goals.

Speaker B

We want to help shift the energy, the vibration of the planet through the integrity of the work we've been blessed to do.

Speaker B

Mine through voice and by vibration and energy through breath, and yours in your form, by inviting people on and all the other amazing things you do to help people change their lives.

Speaker B

So I just wanted to share that we're on a cool path.

Speaker A

I love that.

Speaker A

And that's perfect, because my first question that I want you to continue to expound on, and you've already partly answered it, is I'm always curious because so many people live unintentionally and you don't.

Speaker A

And so when you think about this, how does Arthur and I don't want you to be modest.

Speaker A

I want you to just describe how does Arthur intentionally add good to the world.

Speaker B

By using the gifts that God has Given me, there is no option.

Speaker B

One of the things I say to clients all the time, this is all about you.

Speaker B

But it has absolutely nothing to do with you.

Speaker B

It's a calling.

Speaker B

I have a principle in vocal awareness called surrender, serve and soar.

Speaker B

Surrender literally means to yield or to give back.

Speaker B

Surrender.

Speaker B

It's a French word.

Speaker B

Serve and then soar.

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S O A R.

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I love that.

Speaker B

And so I tell my clients, my responsibility is not to you, it's to God.

Speaker B

On the work, the capital W work.

Speaker B

Sometimes you may get scabs near your elbows as I lovingly drag you kicking and screaming, but it's about the work.

Speaker B

And when we know we've been called, you've been called, we don't get to hang up and say, sorry, wrong number.

Speaker B

It's not about us.

Speaker A

It's not surrender, serve and soar.

Speaker A

It's interesting, you know, the threes.

Speaker A

My three words are love, create, serve.

Speaker A

And so those are the pillars of my foundation.

Speaker A

And yours are surrender, serve and soar.

Speaker A

And service always gets in there somewhere.

Speaker A

So that's spectacular.

Speaker A

How did you come to a place where you knew either a little or a lot, or gradually more?

Speaker A

Describe a little bit how you got to knowing this was your calling.

Speaker B

When I was four, we all have our origin stories and often they can be quite harrowing.

Speaker B

Mine was rather harrowing and I never had a father.

Speaker B

And at four, my amazing mother, who's one of my two heroes in life, my bride being the other, dragged me into an accordion studio.

Speaker B

Her hand was literally on my right wrist dragging me over the threshold.

Speaker B

And I was totally resistant.

Speaker B

Sat me in an accordion, put a three quarter size accordion in my lap, and I.

Speaker B

Sure, I've dramatized it over the years, but I felt morphed.

Speaker B

I knew at 4 that music was my life.

Speaker B

Fortunately, I didn't become a cockroach like Greg or Samsa, but I became music.

Speaker B

So one thing leads to another.

Speaker B

I auditioned for choir in the sixth grade.

Speaker B

Teacher wouldn't let me be in the choir because I couldn't sing America the Beautiful on pitch.

Speaker B

Seventh grade, meet Mrs.

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Grill.

Speaker B

And she had her high tones and she let me in her choir.

Speaker B

So I knew at seven that singing was my musical path.

Speaker B

At 15, one of God's gifts to me, whom I did, in part, dedicated my first book.

Speaker B

Two years ago, Mrs. Julia Kinsa was my first singing teacher and she was in her mid-70s and I was 15.

Speaker B

And in my lessons, Kel and I did this.

Speaker B

I'm not exaggerating.

Speaker B

Stop.

Speaker B

No, I don't want to do it like that.

Speaker B

I hear it this way, manically clamping my hands to my ears like some bizarre reason.

Speaker B

And she allowed this crazy behavior from a 15 year old kid because she intuited something I didn't yet know.

Speaker B

I hear vocal sound differently than any other human being I've ever met on the planet.

Speaker B

When I hear a voice, I hear you.

Speaker B

When you see me perhaps periodically doing this during our time without even asking permission, you'll notice that it calms you and you'll notice that your breathing becomes a little slower, a little deeper.

Speaker B

And because I'm speaking with your unconscious.

Speaker B

And so her lack of dogma helped me create new form.

Speaker B

Vocal awareness is trademarked.

Speaker B

It's copyrighted globally.

Speaker B

Various principles from empowerment through voice to visceral language to sing your heart out.

Speaker B

I get to own.

Speaker B

And I share that because.

Speaker B

And I love your thoughtful inquiry.

Speaker B

I got more holes in me than Swiss cheese.

Speaker A

Don't we all?

Speaker B

For the faint of heart, man and God gave me this work to literally help me save my own life.

Speaker B

And so I knew very early the work came to me.

Speaker B

I started teaching.

Speaker B

This is my 61st year of teaching.

Speaker B

And it came to me.

Speaker B

I began teaching at 18, and it wasn't what it was is today, of course.

Speaker B

But by my early 20s, my seven rituals, everything was sort of canonized.

Speaker B

It was there, it just came.

Speaker B

And it took me years to understand it.

Speaker B

But then I took a master's in voice.

Speaker B

I'm a classical singer.

Speaker B

Before I do all this other stuff.

Speaker B

And an important story for your listeners.

Speaker B

My bride is my life.

Speaker B

We've been together for 57 years.

Speaker A

Stop.

Speaker A

Stop right there.

Speaker A

Awesome accomplishment.

Speaker A

Hats off.

Speaker A

Amazing.

Speaker A

So many, so few make a choice to create depth and power and longevity and meaning and partnership in a relationship.

Speaker A

And so I have to honor that just with all my heart, because you have chosen to make that sacrifice, that work, that partnership and create that beauty, that masterpiece together.

Speaker A

Go on.

Speaker B

Thank you for your kindness and your acknowledgment, which then interrupts my narrative because I have to share something else.

Speaker B

You just used one of the most important words in vocal awareness.

Speaker B

Choice.

Speaker B

I teach in this work, Kellen, that every single thing in life revolves only around two things.

Speaker B

To choose to do something or to choose not to never matters are seemingly daunting.

Speaker B

How scary.

Speaker B

All that matters is, does that choice empower me or disempower me?

Speaker B

And since I teach empowerment through voice, I want us to make empowering choices because we reach adulthood and we think this is us, but it ain't not even.

Speaker B

And so I'm always teaching.

Speaker B

We are not our behaviors.

Speaker B

You mean I have a choice in how I behave?

Speaker B

Well, let me tell you.

Speaker B

And so this work is about helping us discover whom we're truly capable of being.

Speaker B

Back decades ago, when I began teaching Tony Robbins, I would say to.

Speaker B

To Tony, you cannot empower people.

Speaker B

That's arrogant.

Speaker B

We can only help them empower themselves.

Speaker B

That's your life path.

Speaker B

That's my life path.

Speaker B

And so the story that I was about to share.

Speaker B

I had feet of clay.

Speaker B

Until my mid-20s, I'd been teaching vocal awareness part time and performing.

Speaker B

I had a nightclub act, etc, etc, and auditioned for various opera companies and things like that.

Speaker B

I'd actually wanted to be a cantor at one point, but my wife isn't Jewish and so they wouldn't admit me to the university because I said I'd never find a synagogue.

Speaker B

One thing if my bride had converted, but she didn't.

Speaker B

So we raised this very Heinz 57 family spiritually, ethnically, religiously, every which way.

Speaker B

And.

Speaker B

And so I got fired from my last straight job.

Speaker B

And it was as though God were saying to me, well, if you don't have enough courage to do this, I'll get your butt kicked out and make you have to do it.

Speaker B

But I still had feet of play so severely.

Speaker B

We were on food stamps, we had a small house and one child at the time.

Speaker B

And I sat in the living room one night, my bride and our youngest and our eldest son were in the back bedroom.

Speaker B

And as we were sitting in the front of the fireplace, saying to me that my bride was only intellectually supportive of me doing vocal awareness full time, not emotionally supportive.

Speaker B

I knew as I was saying this I was scapegoating her because she was there for me a thousand percent.

Speaker B

I wasn't there for myself.

Speaker B

The next day I put an ad in the Cal State Northridge newspaper, the Matador, because it was free.

Speaker B

It was the only advertising I've ever done.

Speaker B

And I got a student offering one free introductory lesson who became like family for probably 20 years.

Speaker B

And I impacted her life in a substantial way and she ours.

Speaker B

And I have seven rituals in vocal Awareness.

Speaker B

The sixth one, Kellen, is pay attention.

Speaker B

Deeper listening.

Speaker B

I've always had what I refer to to further address the question you asked me initially, what I call a knowing.

Speaker B

I hear it, I know it.

Speaker B

But because I don't want this work to be the wrenching of some neurotic voice teacher, I really drill down.

Speaker B

I've studied this work scientifically, philosophically, Spiritually, psychologically.

Speaker B

I've studied it in voice science with some of the greatest where science is literally on the planet.

Speaker B

And so it's grounded in craft.

Speaker B

It's not just grounded in my neuroses and my sense of omniscience.

Speaker B

And so this knowing helped me carve out this new way.

Speaker B

Because when you give me your voice, Kellen, you give me you.

Speaker B

I say to I teach a great number of elite athletes.

Speaker B

I've got 33 students on the Pro Football hall of Fame alone, and gold medalists and Olympic men basketball and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker B

And I say to an athlete in the first lesson that you bring the gift to your sport or the talent.

Speaker B

They don't all have a gift, but they all have a talent.

Speaker B

But someone literally teaches you every single thing you do, everything from how to dribble, to throw, to the most sophisticated.

Speaker B

Without that training, their talent is wasted.

Speaker B

But Kellen, who teaches us to be us, as I said a moment ago, we reach adulthood and we think this is it.

Speaker B

Because there isn't a matrix for helping us be us.

Speaker B

So in my sixth ritual, pay attention Deeper listening.

Speaker B

It teaches how to listen deeply to this conversation between source and self, capital S self that only we are privy to.

Speaker B

I have this wonderful new program I created in January, begin my 61st year of teaching called A New form of Mastery Journal.

Speaker B

My image of it was it's an online program right now, but I'm also going to be creating a hard copy.

Speaker B

But it works very nicely online.

Speaker B

It's a journal.

Speaker B

And my premise for it was what Julia Cameron did decades ago with the Artist way.

Speaker B

Everything takes place in the book, everything takes place in this journal.

Speaker B

So it becomes like your accountability partner.

Speaker B

You create your vision, your goals with timeline.

Speaker B

We all have goals, but not with a timeline.

Speaker A

My favorite two questions are do what by when?

Speaker A

And of course, you have to have details and the when has to be specific.

Speaker A

Otherwise, just a weird.

Speaker A

Anyway, keep going.

Speaker B

And.

Speaker B

And then there's.

Speaker B

And this is really important.

Speaker B

I'm sure you do something similar.

Speaker B

And it's also really lame.

Speaker B

There's 365 pages for each day of the year with a quote, one of my quotes, a poem, something to inspire on each page.

Speaker B

It's called 168 Hour Journal Matrix.

Speaker B

168 hours is 7 times 24.

Speaker B

How do I spend a week?

Speaker B

And so we quantify it.

Speaker B

Everything goes in there, Everything.

Speaker B

Because the most important commodity in life, as you know, is time.

Speaker B

Of course, you never get it again.

Speaker B

So it's an exercise in how do we structure time?

Speaker B

And because I discovered years ago that, you know, we go through school, we're starting kindergarten or preschool or whatever, high school, college maybe.

Speaker B

And through all these years, we have a singular identity.

Speaker B

We're a student, doesn't matter, have a job or whatever.

Speaker B

We're still a student.

Speaker B

And we have somebody to tell us what to do for 15, 18 years or more.

Speaker B

A parent, a teacher, a counselor, a professor.

Speaker B

Then all of a sudden we graduate and we get kicked out of the womb.

Speaker B

And now there's nobody to tell us what to do.

Speaker B

So the single greatest deterrent to living life on our terms is there's no one to tell us what to do.

Speaker B

So we have to learn to tell ourselves.

Speaker B

If we have a boss and it's five o' clock and it's time to go home, we start to get out from our desk, can't go in an emergency, sit back down, they'll pay you overtime.

Speaker B

But we got to get this done.

Speaker B

We have no choice.

Speaker B

But if we are building our own dreams, it's five o'.

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Clock, I'm fried.

Speaker B

I'll do this tomorrow.

Speaker B

We can't, because we're in service to the work, in this work and in your work, I'm sure.

Speaker B

So then, when I spoke a moment ago about the concept of a brand, look at that beautiful space you've created behind you.

Speaker B

And I'm sure you have an elegant website, and people spend thousands, tens of thousands or more on their websites and color palette and font and brand and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker B

But then they get up in front of it and they sound like, you know, Pee Wee Herman or something like that.

Speaker B

And not that there was anything wrong.

Speaker B

He had a bountiful career.

Speaker B

But the point is, they do not reflect the brand that I'm looking at on my iPad or my laptop.

Speaker B

And so I introduce people to the reality that a voice is a brand and an opinion created instantaneously.

Speaker B

You don't get a second chance to make that first impression.

Speaker B

So if I say, kellen, you're a really nice human being, thank you so much for allowing me to be on your show today.

Speaker B

Kellen, you're a really nice human being.

Speaker B

Thank you for allowing me to be on your show today.

Speaker B

Now, we know the first one is bogus, but we don't necessarily, in that instant know why my pitch was higher.

Speaker B

I spoke too fast, which made me disingenuous.

Speaker B

But didn't occur to you in the moment.

Speaker B

All that you got was, I was inauthentic.

Speaker B

The second one, it didn't occur to you that I slowed down, I breathed, my pitch was lower.

Speaker B

All you got was, I was more genuine.

Speaker B

And so perception being reality, which one do I want to leave my audience with?

Speaker B

Then there is.

Speaker A

You want to leave your audience with the truth.

Speaker A

And if the truth is you care about them.

Speaker B

Yeah, go ahead, tell me that same sentence.

Speaker B

See the last word, truth, underlined, and see a period.

Speaker A

What you want to leave them with is the truth.

Speaker B

Now, do you feel and hear that difference?

Speaker B

Of course, yes.

Speaker B

And that's how I would love to know you.

Speaker B

Because you're so grounded in what you do.

Speaker B

You say it organically.

Speaker B

But there's an important piece in vocal awareness called visceral language, which I just introduced in that one moment.

Speaker B

I'm a singer, I look at music and tells me everything to do.

Speaker B

How fast, how slow, how loud, how soft, whatever.

Speaker B

But we just got words, man.

Speaker B

They don't tell us, Jack.

Speaker B

They're just words.

Speaker B

So visceral language enables us to convey the emotion of those words.

Speaker B

So I just had you underline the word truth, circle the period or the full stop at the end, and now it sounds like it meant something rather than just hearing a phrase.

Speaker B

And that was really beautiful the way you just did that.

Speaker B

Thank you.

Speaker A

I have a question I want to back up.

Speaker A

Don't forget where you are.

Speaker A

Put a comma there.

Speaker A

But said something a bit ago.

Speaker A

Or don't.

Speaker A

It'll come back around.

Speaker A

You said these things came to you, and I think it was seven.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

May I interrupt again?

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

You remember where you are?

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

Keep.

Speaker B

Start over, please.

Speaker B

But maintain eye contact.

Speaker B

By the way, to your audience, I'm not just being my normal, rude, arrogant self, but Kellen gave me permission for me to play inside.

Speaker A

I did.

Speaker A

So the question I had for you is, earlier, you talked about seven habits coming to you.

Speaker B

Now, let me interrupt.

Speaker B

Do you hear your pitches different?

Speaker B

Of course, yes.

Speaker B

Because when we make eye contact, it changes the sound of a voice.

Speaker B

And because you're such an integral man, and because you have this rather beautiful instrument, I wanted to bring this to your attention.

Speaker B

And because you're also so passionate and want to help, you're going a mile a minute.

Speaker B

And so I want to just capture that for a second so the audience could experience.

Speaker B

My God, listen to the power of this man.

Speaker B

We can gather our thoughts anywhere we want, but I don't want us talking up there.

Speaker B

We do it because that's our behavior.

Speaker B

But earlier I said we're not our behavior.

Speaker B

That's just what we do.

Speaker B

And so here I just gave you a little trick.

Speaker B

So please, I won't interrupt again, sir.

Speaker B

Thank you.

Speaker A

No, it's okay.

Speaker A

Thank you.

Speaker A

Because one of the things I love to do is I love to have the guest, you in this case, share the.

Speaker A

Not talk about, but share the truth of the thing that they are.

Speaker A

And that's what you're doing.

Speaker A

So I did give you permission, and I appreciate that.

Speaker A

So let's go to the seven habits rituals.

Speaker B

I did Stephen Covey, he had the seven habits.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah, I want you to talk about that.

Speaker A

Coming to.

Speaker A

Because every person has gifts, talents that we were all given.

Speaker A

We have a mission, we have a purpose.

Speaker A

Many never find it or claim it.

Speaker A

And when you had those talk about this seven rituals that came to you, how did that feel?

Speaker A

How did you recognize them?

Speaker B

That's a lovely thought.

Speaker B

Talk about that a bit over the decades.

Speaker B

I remember once I was working with one of my corporate clients in his Office, a Fortune 100 company.

Speaker B

And this was back in the days of these huge computers sitting behind him.

Speaker B

And here was this desk and I sitting over here in a chair by the window, and a thought was coming and I interrupted everything we were doing.

Speaker B

I said, would you please turn around and write this and type this in your computer?

Speaker B

Because I knew something important was coming and if I didn't get it down, I would lose it many times in earlier decades.

Speaker B

Student is recording our lesson.

Speaker B

Something is emerging.

Speaker B

I say, would you please, when you record your lesson and listen back, would you please write this down for me again?

Speaker B

These moments need to be captured.

Speaker B

It's part of the.

Speaker B

Frankly, it's part of the gift of the deeper listening.

Speaker B

I end all my seminars with this.

Speaker B

I've never done this literally in a podcast before, but it seems appropriate to do so here.

Speaker B

I'm in my studio in Encino, California, today, and on my studio wall near one of my pianos is a cover of an insight from an article I was reading in quest magazine in 1980.

Speaker B

It's on my wall because this thought emerged about 10 o' clock one night when I was reading the magazine.

Speaker B

And it wouldn't go away until it made me get up and write it down.

Speaker B

And the only paper was the magazine, which was framed on my studio wall today.

Speaker B

It said, voice is the only artistic experience which is both finite and infinite at the same time.

Speaker B

It is fallible and fragile, gone in an instant, unseen, only felt, remember from the past, even a long moment ago, anticipated, sensing its future even as the present is just occurring.

Speaker B

It's temporal, visceral, organic.

Speaker B

Such a complex simple and beguiling transcendent state.

Speaker B

That's what emerged.

Speaker B

About 10 o' clock 1 night I began reflecting on this thought and it took me two or three years to get to the nub of this.

Speaker B

One of the opportunities.

Speaker B

I was at a voice institute with some of the greatest scientists in the world and I was a little nervous to share this with them because it's a little out there.

Speaker B

But he confirmed it from a scientific perspective too.

Speaker B

Especially when I said, you can substitute other words for the word voice.

Speaker B

Life is the only artistic experience which is both finite and infinite at the same time.

Speaker B

Or love.

Speaker B

It is fallible and fragile, gone in an instant, only felt.

Speaker B

And I came to understand the paradigm of my work which integrate life and love through the power of our voice so that we can all live as sovereignly, as consciously aware as possible.

Speaker B

So there are these moments in my life when I.

Speaker B

This knowing just made me listen.

Speaker B

The sixth ritual.

Speaker B

Pay attention.

Speaker B

Deeper listening.

Speaker B

People talk about awareness.

Speaker B

People talk about, speak about consciousness.

Speaker B

I don't.

Speaker B

I speak about conscious awareness.

Speaker B

For me it's a 360 intra and interpersonally.

Speaker B

I am always tuned in and it can't.

Speaker B

Years ago I have a picture on my wall of the great artist Fred Astaire, whom I had the privilege of meeting when he was in his 80s.

Speaker B

I was up at his house teaching his wife.

Speaker B

And to see this octogenarian shuffle and bedroom slippers was so sensual.

Speaker B

And the metaphor was for me that Fredister wasn't somebody, a dancer when he danced.

Speaker B

His body was an instrument.

Speaker B

Walking in the room, he was a dancer.

Speaker B

You and I are on a life path of service, integrity, integration, have the same root source.

Speaker B

They meet wholeness.

Speaker B

We're human beings too, so we screw up all the time as well.

Speaker B

At least in my case.

Speaker A

Of course.

Speaker A

Of course, of course.

Speaker B

But because of the integrity we have to serve and get back on our path.

Speaker B

Otherwise we're disingenuous.

Speaker B

And in this world there's so many coaches and we're so hungry and thirsty and needy.

Speaker B

We may be dying of thirst in the Gobi Desert, but it's only a mirage.

Speaker B

But we're going to try to drink from it anyway because everybody can put a shingle on their door.

Speaker B

But what are the qualifications for doing so?

Speaker B

Meeting somebody who has those standards.

Speaker B

I have these standards and these qualifications.

Speaker B

So you see in that moment right there, where'd Arthur go?

Speaker B

Out for ham and cheese?

Speaker B

Where is he?

Speaker B

Why is he taking so long?

Speaker B

But I'm teaching a breath.

Speaker B

Space has value.

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A song Without a rest is not the same piece of music.

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Space gives me thinking time, but everybody else feels thinking time with ums and us and you knows and I means and I likes and all this wasted stuff.

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I breathe instead.

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You know, my experience of that space was interesting because as you had that space, I didn't experience anything except integration and connection.

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I experienced an energetic, swirling, coming to coalesce at a thought.

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That was my visceral experience of that space.

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What a nice thing.

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Nobody's ever said that.

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That's really intuitive.

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I need to share an important thought about this work.

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I teach mastery.

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One of my themes is vocal awareness, Communication, mastery.

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Another one of the trademarked elements, mastery.

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In every other discipline, whether it be the martial arts performance, sport, there is an off switch.

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One is literally only in mastery in their skill set.

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Then they leave that skill set and they just get to hang out and be normal.

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In vocal awareness, there is no off switch.

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We live in this state.

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If I, for example, asked you to sit up straight, please, Kellen, sit at attention and you notice.

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You hold your breath.

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Relax.

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That's what we all do when we present ourselves because we're being judged subliminally, we're seeking approval.

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Now, Kellen, if we take this golden thread from 3 inches below our navel, take it in your right or left hand, please, and we're going to slowly pull this golden thread right up through the top of my crown chakra, embodying myself as an amazing man of stature.

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Stop.

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The first thing your body has already done is inhale.

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You noticed it.

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Of course you did.

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Do it again.

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But when you sat and presented, you held your breath.

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When you claim your stature, the body's impulse is to inhale deeper, Taller, taller.

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Pulling this golden thread right up to the middle of your crown chakra, straight up.

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And we're pulling from our obliques, not from our neck and shoulders.

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Taller.

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Fully extend your elbow.

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Chin up an inch.

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Neck and shoulders loose.

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Feeling connection to source.

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The first of our seven rituals is to say thank you.

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Arm down.

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And now keep feeling that tether.

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Keep feeling it.

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And notice how your chest is more open, your core is more engaged.

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Because everything in vocal awareness is physiologically connected.

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Or I'm blowing smoke.

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I asked you to put yourself in stature, in the body.

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Inhaled.

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Chest opens, core engages.

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Your space is internally and externally quieter.

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And that's the first element of what I call a mastery moment.

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Every artist or athlete that I know has a ritual before they compete or perform, and it always has a spiritual element.

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So here you already feel Status changed.

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This is connected to a really important process in vocal awareness.

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Every one of these great athletes and artists, they're hubristic in their skill set.

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They're not hoping their coach or their teammates approve.

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It's ludicrous.

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That artist on the stage, of course, wants to be loved and stroked.

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That's the ego mind.

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But the moment my mind crosses the footlights and I'm screwed, I can't do that.

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I'm not serving my art.

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I'm stuck out there.

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So they are totally hubristic.

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Without hubris, one cannot embody mastery.

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But out here, we get all these mixed messages.

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Oh, don't act like that.

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What will people think?

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Oh, you shouldn't say that.

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You sound arrogant.

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So if I say, kellen, vocal awareness is extraordinary work, it can help you change your life in moments.

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Stupid and arrogant.

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Kellen, vocal awareness is extraordinary work.

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It can help you change your life in moments.

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It's not.

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It's my truth.

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So helping us embody our self.

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Vocal awareness is a very hubristic work.

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Not an arrogant one, but an empowering one because it teaches us how to claim our birthright, our sovereignty.

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And accompanied with that is an exercise called.

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Which is in that journal, choosing my vocal and presentational Persona.

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The root of that word Persona means through the sound.

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One's identity is largely conveyed through the sound of a voice and an opinion, instantaneous as we know.

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So you answer the first question, how do I believe I'm presently perceived?

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And so the second question, how would I ideally like to be known?

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And then these questions are accompanied by a drawing that reflects the first image and a drawing that reflects the second.

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And it raises that interesting notion once again.

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You mean I have a choice?

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Darn tootin.

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So all of this infrastructure, again, one of my most important paradigms is structure does not impinge, it liberates.

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Freedom without direction is chaos.

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We create these implicit structures to enable us to empower.

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To claim.

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I just finished a two and a half month mastermind.

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The first time I'd done an exclusive mastermind for anyone, it was for a group I had taught at Tony's Leadership Academy a couple of months ago.

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And I wanted to try it out because these people, they're really devoted to improving, but meanwhile they still live with the revolving door.

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They don't.

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It's the same stuff wearing a hole in the carpet.

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And this one mature woman seemed to be in her 50s or so.

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Shared we have all my seminars and webinars end with something called Closing Ceremony where everybody embodies the work and shares something about that they want to share, but in vocal awareness, with our conscious loving breath and with stature.

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And she shared to this group, all in virtual, that over the course of this two and a half months, she discovered the trauma of her infancy, not her childhood, her infancy.

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And she shared it so elegantly in conscious awareness, in the work.

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And to have the courage to share that, the opportunity to make that discovery, that was huge.

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One of the most moving things all my decades of teaching.

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You're a nice man.

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I just go on.

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I don't come for air.

Speaker B

You're just very gracious.

Speaker A

Well, so why do you suppose you used an interesting word describing that process, embodiment.

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And there are so many, as you said, people hang a shingle and they present themselves as leaders, teachers or whatever, but there are so few who do what you said.

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Because vocal awareness, as you said, has no off switch.

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Who you're being is who you're being.

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And why do you think it is so difficult and so rare for people to truly be the product of their product, who embody viscerally the truth of who they are and what they're trying to teach?

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Because when they teach it, you know, they're talking about that thing over there.

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And when they are, it, you know, the words, the cadence, the power, the transmission all changes.

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Why is that so rare?

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You probably heard the stupid statistic that sociologists have been imparting for probably four or five generations.

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The greatest fear in society is public speaking.

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I've heard that, sure.

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Totally bogus.

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The greatest fear in society are actually two fears.

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Fear of abandonment and ownership of my own greatness.

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Claiming who I am and not being afraid of what you think of me while I'm being myself is terrifying.

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Okay, all of us, to lesser or greater degrees, are victims of trauma.

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This journey ain't for the faint of heart.

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No, it's not.

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And frankly, over 40 to 50% very severe trauma.

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So none of us got anywhere in life unscathed.

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It's not necessarily felt safe.

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And we never learned how to be.

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We only learned how to present.

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We learned how to.

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To seek reward, approval, whatever, but not to claim.

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It's only when we're given the opportunity through having a prodigious talent of some sort that's recognized, or this innate drive that is rare to go after it.

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And then the world beats a path to our door.

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But mere mortals, quote, unquote, we don't get this.

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We get all the pushback, we get the fears, the confusions, etc.

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Which is why one of My visions is to have this giant platform because the vision has been for decades to change the world through voice.

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The goal has been for decades to help all those I work with to achieve their own enlightenment and enjoy their own empowerment.

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It's critically important to me because we're living in the most dangerous time on our globe since 1932.

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And.

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More dangerous than.

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Because now everything proliferates within hours and we have the waters controlled by some terrifying demagogues.

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And we have, I'll say it, we have one in this country, America, right now, who's testing the waters of authoritarianism.

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And it's not just him, but it's the sycophants who bend the knee that perpetuate this.

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And this is how democracies crumble.

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This is how we lose human rights.

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Now, I don't want to get on some political soapbox.

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That's not my point.

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But this is empowerment to voice.

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I want us to not let anybody take our power from us because we hand it to them on a silver platter almost every day anyway.

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We do.

Speaker A

We do.

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We don't make those choices.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

I remember years ago who Jack Welch was the chairman of ge and he was considered at the time when his book came out, probably the greatest corporate leader in America or the world.

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But meanwhile, we heard tales of how he would behave at meetings.

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You could see the veins pop out on his neck.

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But yet.

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So it's okay to debase another human being or to scream at them or make them feel small because you're sitting at the end table, the chair at the end of the table.

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That shouldn't be acceptable, but it is.

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And so I want us to be able to stand for ourselves.

Speaker B

There are schools of brought up presentational training, say, bond with your audience.

Speaker B

What a bunch of garbage.

Speaker B

What if you got one point of view and somebody else has another?

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I can't please you both.

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So I have to be me.

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I have to risk that, not strive to be liked.

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You sat up at attention, you held your breath.

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That's just instinctively, intuitively what happens because, oh, I hope that's okay.

Speaker B

And for women, it's even less of a safe playing field and for other segments of our society.

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And so, you know, in my last book, I was going to have a chapter called For Women Only, but I.

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In the writing process, no, I don't want to do that at this point because when I travel all over the world and I teach and whatever my books been, books have been in different languages and I've observed that we all.

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This is Part of the human condition.

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I've only had one or two people in all of these decades who show no fear about claiming their power.

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One of them literally was Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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And I only mentioned the name for obvious reasons, because nothing would stop this man because he had such self belief, has such self belief and.

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And then a couple of others like this.

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But most of us terrifies us.

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We have schools of thought that say, speak to the last row of the house.

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So what if I'm doing a webinar or seminar and you're way out there?

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I've just raised pitch now.

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I've diminished the power of who I am.

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So now I don't want to reach the last row of the house.

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I just want to talk to you here and see what Joel would learn in the work.

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Seeing the edge and arc of sound, not trying to go there.

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It only serves in source.

Speaker A

You know something I know.

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I know that there is literally.

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And because of the.

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The vast texture and experience that you have an endless amount of teaching, what I want now is I want to be able to help people follow you.

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So I need you to tell me where they can do that.

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People will have heard it.

Speaker A

They will have seen you work with me.

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They will have experimented with your instructions, with the thread and breathing.

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And I want you to give us where to go to learn more about Arthur, to learn to learn more about your vocal teaching and the power of making the choice to claim your voice.

Speaker A

Where do we find more of you?

Speaker A

Tell me about your website and all of the stuff you have.

Speaker B

Vocalawareness.com is my website.

Speaker B

If anybody wants to write to me, they can write to supportawareness.com and Hennessys answers everything and sends what's appropriate to me.

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I know.

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This is airing September 30th, and in a couple of weeks, I'm doing a public mastermind group.

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And if anybody wants to be part of it, I'll speak with Henesis about this tomorrow.

Speaker B

I'll create a discount coupon code for people who come from this podcast, and I'll tell Hannesis and she'll figure it out, because I'm the chromandumen of technology.

Speaker B

And have you heard of Kajabi?

Speaker A

I have heard of Kajabi.

Speaker A

In fact, we used to use it.

Speaker A

We're using something else now, but I do know what that is.

Speaker B

Again, I don't even know what it is, but I did a keynote for them the other day, and I'm speaking to these people that, you know, like, look, chain looks bad.

Speaker B

As a dog because I'm really pretty limited and I'm a great typist, but that's as far as it goes.

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So we have these wonderful online courses.

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We have wonderful books.

Speaker B

It's actually for those of your viewers.

Speaker B

Listeners in Latin America will be bilingual September 30th.

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Good on you and excited about that.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

And I will also have Hennesses put together a little bundle that includes one of my books, maybe in a new form of mastery journal just for the Kellen Fluekiger people.

Speaker B

And if anybody wants anything, because I would love to be of service to.

Speaker A

You, Sir Arthur, you are a delight.

Speaker A

You have enlightened me and the audience.

Speaker A

And the work that you're doing, giving people both permission, encouragement, and the tools to find, to claim and to make a difference with their voice is amazing.

Speaker A

Thanks for being with me today.

Speaker B

Thanks for your kindness and for asking such insightful questions.

Speaker B

God bless you, sir.

Speaker A

Thank you.

Speaker A

I want to encourage all of you to listen more than once.

Speaker A

I say that often on episodes, but this one, especially Arthur, has shared from his deep experience, his passion, and his true desire to help you with the tools, the power and the permission to create your ultimate life.

Speaker B

Open your heart.

Speaker A

And this time around, right here, right now, your opportunity for massive growth is right in front of you.

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Every episode gives you practical tips and practices that will change everything.

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