In this special Thursday coaching edition, host Kellan Fluckiger is joined by coaches Ray Hagler and Jason Duncan for a real, unscripted conversation about what AI is actually doing to coaching — and what it can never replace.

This isn’t hype.
It’s a grounded, honest look at how coaches and leaders can use AI well… without losing what truly creates transformation.

🎙️ In this episode, you’ll hear:

Why AI is powerful for information — but not for real transformation

How top coaches are using AI as a thinking and strategy partner

What AI will likely replace in low and mid-level coaching

The skills and identity shifts coaches must develop to stay relevant

Why relationship, accountability and “transmission” still matter most

The hidden dangers of trusting AI without pressure-testing its answers

If you coach, lead teams, run a business, or work with people at any level — this conversation will change how you think about AI in your work.

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to the show & why this AI + coaching series exists
01:20 – Meet today’s guests: Ray Hagler and Jason Duncan
02:05 – How Ray uses AI in his coaching and business
04:10 – AI and spirituality: where Ray draws the line
05:00 – How Jason uses AI as a “thinking partner”
06:50 – Real examples of using AI to design high-level events
08:10 – How fast AI capability is accelerating
08:55 – What AI will (and won’t) replace in coaching
10:05 – Why AI can’t create real transformation
11:10 – The truth about the coaching industry and low-level coaching
13:05 – Why great coaches are not threatened by AI
15:20 – What AI still cannot do (and never will)
17:05 – Relationship, accountability and real-world experience
18:55 – “AI can’t bleed” – the human edge in coaching
21:00 – What coaches must do now to stay relevant
23:45 – Identity shifts, outcomes and embodiment in coaching
25:10 – Why coaches must lean into AI, not run from it
27:05 – Real workflows: session notes, summaries and preparation using AI
29:30 – The real investment isn’t money — it’s time and mastery
32:05 – The biggest dangers of AI for coaches
34:20 – Hallucinations, bad advice and the importance of pressure-testing
36:05 – How poor prompting creates poor outcomes
38:05 – AI and creativity – where coaches must stay human
40:05 – AI as a blueprint, not a builder
41:30 – Joint ventures, partnership and human leverage
43:00 – AI as an accelerator for human growth
44:40 – Has AI already peaked? A different perspective
46:00 – Final thoughts and key takeaways for coaches and leaders

🎧 Listen now and discover how to use AI as a tool — without losing the human depth that makes coaching, leadership and transformation truly powerful.

Learn more about the show and tools mentioned in this episode:
kellenfluckigermedia.com
yourultimatelife.ca

Connect with Ray and Jason:
https://rayhaglermedia.com/
www.therealjasonduncan.com

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