The coaching world is changing forever and most coaches won’t survive the shift.

In this powerhouse roundtable episode of Your Ultimate Life, Kellan Fluckiger sits down with two seasoned leaders, Johann Nogueira and Sandy Schultz Hessler, to discuss the truth about coaching in the age of AI.

No hype. No fearmongering. Just real talk about what’s dying, what’s being born, and what coaches absolutely MUST embody to stay relevant and serve at the deepest level.

This is one of the most important conversations we've ever had on the show.

You’ll Discover
✅ How AI is completely reshaping business, coaching, and human development
✅ Why 95% of coaches won’t make a living in the coming years
✅ The ONLY coaches who will thrive and the one thing they all have in common
✅ How Johann used AI to build generational wealth, reverse-engineer goals, and 5x his team’s output
✅ Why Sandy warns that speed ≠ effectiveness and why stillness & inner work matter more than ever
✅ The coaching skills AI will never replace
✅ Why authenticity, embodiment, and lived truth will become the #1 differentiator
✅ The rise of universal basic income and robotics, what happens when millions lose traditional jobs?
✅ Why AI is BOTH a benevolent tool and a culture-shifting force
✅ How human pain, trauma, and connection reveal the limits of AI and the irreplaceable power of a coach who can “bleed”
✅ Why efficiency alone won’t lead to fulfillment and how humanity must redefine success
✅ What YOU must do as a coach (or aspiring coach) to stay relevant, powerful, and deeply impactful
✅ This isn't a theory. This is the future and it’s already here.

Chapters
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00:00 - Welcome to the Thursday edition: Coaching & AI
01:10 - Meet today’s guests: Johann & Sandy
01:40 - How AI transformed Johann’s business & created generational wealth
04:16 - Will AI steal human growth opportunities?
06:00 - Sandy’s perspective: AI’s power + the danger of losing inner work
08:40 - Where AI is helpful, and where humans must slow down
12:20 - Kellan’s research: 11 coaching models vs. AI
14:50 - The end of unqualified coaching
17:00 - AI as a lifeline for those facing crisis
19:40 - Enhancement vs. replacement: What’s coming next
20:30 - Skynet? Society-wide shifts in purpose & work
24:20 - The one thing AI can’t do: “I can’t bleed.”
25:30 - Embodied truth: The future of coaching
29:00 - Robotics, universal basic income & cultural values
33:00 - The Mexican Fisherman story — redefining success
37:00 - Why busyness never leads to meaning
39:40 - Kellan’s call for embodied leadership
41:20 - Advice to future coaches: Don’t do it unless you’re ALL IN
42:45 - Final thoughts from Johann & Sandy
43:58 - Closing message: No more excuses — your ultimate life starts now

Resources
Learn more:
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Free tools, trainings & resources:
👉 YourUltimateLife.ca

Connect & Share
Johann Nogueira: www.businessauthorities.com
Sandy Schultz Hessler: www.sixminutesdaily.com

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