Stop Using the World's Problems to Avoid Your Own Purpose

Welcome to the show. Tired of the hype about living a dream? It's time for truth.This is the place for tools, power and real talk so you can create the life you dream and deserve your ultimate life. Subscribe, share, create. You have infinite power. Hello.Welcome to this episode of your ultimate life podcast to help you live a life of purpose, prosperity and joy by serving with your life experience, your gifts, your talents and that divine nature. I have a special guest today, Catherine Llewellyn, and I'm excited to have you. Welcome to the show, Catherine.

Thank you. I'm very delighted and excited to be here. Kellen.

Good. And people are going to love. Seems like people that are from across the pond that have that lovely British accent are always fun to have.The guy that makes the most money on 11 labs with a voice clone. They let you clone your voice and use it. Others use it for commercial purposes. He's a Brit. Number two is his daughter and she is too.So Joy met them at the Author Nation event in Las Vegas because she runs a publishing company and she met 11 labs and all the people because they're all there. But anyway, that's how we found that out. Well, I'm excited to have you here.

Yes, me too. I mean, we met quite recently, but I just so enjoyed talking to you and I so enjoyed your kind of combination of humility, kind of bombastic.This is what I'm here to say, all wrapped up in a big heart, you know, that kind of combination is irresistible. So when you said, would I like to come on? It was a no brainer. So I'm so happy to be here.

Fantastic. So I don't do introductions per se to talk about your coolness. And the reason I don't is because it'll come out during the show.And you know, when people do that for me and they read all this stuff or say all, whatever it is, I don't know, it just feels weird. So I don't do that.But what I would like to start with is a question, and that is each of us, as we breathe, add carbon dioxide to the world, so we add something to the world, period. What I'm interested in is we also all make choices about how we add other things to the world.And I want to know without being modest, you not being modest, how does Catherine intentionally add good to the world?

I'd say I've got various different activities I've done over the years and I'll say in a moment what I'm doing now. But I think the most truthful answer is I try to live as consciously as I can.So by that what I mean is that I'm consciously in what I'm experiencing in my life and I'm consciously appreciating what's there, noticing how I'm feeling, noticing what I'm experiencing, noticing what's happening with other people.And to me, that living as consciously as I can, I consider to be contribution because I feel like the more we all do that, the better everything goes. You know, I think a lot of problems that occur occur by people being not in the moment.In the moment there are no problems, or very, very often there are no problems. So if someone is actually standing on your foot in the moment, that is the problem. But otherwise. So I'd say that's my, my kind of bottom line level.The next level up, I would say is I've always embodied and I actually believe in embodying what I call freedom of spirit.And by that I mean the knowledge that inherently I'm free, you're free, we're all free inherently in our spirit, and that when we're connected to that, we are able to live in a glorious way and able to contribute in a glorious way. And I kind of rep. I'm a kind of ambassador for that, you know, and I'm all. I'm representing that in the way that I am and the choices I make.But I'm also always encouraging other people to embrace that also because I believe everybody has that as a birthright. So those are kind of the essential answers.

Well, I'm going to come back and you can add more layers if you want, but I want to dig into that second one especially. And not because they don't agree, because I do. But it's. Here's the thing that I notice a lot is we.I say it, you say it, you're free, you create your own life, you know, all that sort of thing. And that is what freedom of spirit actually is.And then people will come up and say, yeah, but there's all these people, the majority of the population in the world, that live in some kind of less advantaged way, either poverty or lack of water or government structures or oppression or. And nobody's going to wave a wand and fix all that in a minute, at least not us. And so I'd like to talk for a minute about the.What I think is a serious question, but I think it has an answer.I'm just curious about your view on what you say to someone who then points to people that are in oppression or Poverty or negative circumstances or stuff that we would think of as, ah, you know, that kind of thing. What would you say about that?

It kind of depends on the context. You know, if it's.It is a client who I'm working with, I will tend to encourage them to come back to their actual lived experience in their actual life.Because a lot of that information you've just said, while, yes, it's, you know, I believe all those things are happening, it's true, but it's not actually happening in this room now.And, you know, if somebody knows about that stuff and they want to actually physically go and do something about it, I absolutely support them to do that and would, you know, assist them, empower them, etc, in any way I can to help them do it.If they're not going to go and do that, I would encourage them to acknowledge that's happening, acknowledge how they feel about it, but not to kind of take it on into their own body.Because that doesn't actually help them, doesn't help anybody else, and it doesn't help them to do something actually useful that they actually can do now in their life. You know, I think we spend a lot of time vicariously getting all worried and distracted about all these other people.And sometimes, honestly, Kellen, I think sometimes we do it as a way of avoiding our own life, avoiding making our own life work, because that's actually our mission to have our own life work. And part of that is helping other people. But we can't all help everybody all the time. You know, it would be arrogant to think that we could. Madness.

Right, Right. You know, you know, this is any.

One of us, you know, any one of us, like you, for example, you've got this wonderful presence, this wonderful voice, etc. You could go, right, I'm going to become a global ambassador, right? I'm going to find all the right people, get to know them.You could make that your mission and go and do it or not. You know, it's a choice. So that's kind of my.If it's a personal friend and they're sitting on my sofa at 10 o' clock at night and we've had a nice dinner, we've been relaxing and chatting and they start moaning and whinging and complaining about what's happening in the world, I would ask them to shut up, because now is not the time. So the context makes a big difference to how I respond to these sorts of patients.

I love that because here's the points that I'm hearing and I think they're really good. And so those that are listening, I want you to remember this is whatever it is you're worried about happening to you right here, right now.And if it is, then there's action, remediation, there's something you need to do about like standing on your foot or somebody's robbing your house or whatever. If it's not, and you or I decide to. What we're doing is we're saying, okay, that stuff about creating your life's all good, but it can't work.It can't work, can't be true because of that over there. And that over there can be true or whatever, but it's not you and it's not owning it.So what you're doing is you're sacrificing your own ability to create your life the best you can because you think that's happening over there, and so you're giving away that. And incidentally, the truth is you can be sad and empathetic with that, but if you take on to create your best life, you take.You are then in the best position to do whatever you want to do or can do about that or some version of that. And, and that, you know, that's the point.And so declaring that it's not okay to talk about creating your life because somebody somewhere might have a problem is what you said, it's an excuse because from your created place you're best able to do something anyway.

Exactly. And if in fact, if anything, all the more reason to create your life.All the more reason, you know, do you want to be a vibration in the world that actually contributes? Because I also do believe very much in this idea of ripple effect.You know, every time someone has a conversation like this, like you and I are having now, we are vibrating at a certain resonance. And I believe that obviously that affects the listeners, but that affects broader than that.You know, all these things that we all do to try to be conscious and live our best life or live our ultimate life, as you say, helps us, helps the people around us, and that can actually spread.And if you look back over history and look at the growth and the shifts of culture over many, many, many thousands of years, we'll see that many shifts that have happened that most of us have forgotten all about. Now we look at the world now we go, oh my God, it's suddenly become really horrible. No, we've always been.We've always had dark, we've always had light within all of us.And actually a lot of things have improved significantly over the millennia, to the point where, you know, hunger is less now overall, poverty is less now overall, all kinds of suffering are less now overall because of shifts that have been made by individual people as part of a society, part of a culture. And so we're on this very long, slow, growing up process as a species, in my opinion.And everyone who tries to be conscious and live their life as well as they can is accelerating that journey. This is how I see it.

So I love that. I'm going to just do one more little thing in that and then we'll move to something else.If you're living consciously, this is what I'm hearing and I want to see how you react to this. If you're living consciously, meaning you're aware of where you are, what you're doing, what's going on in the moment, what's true for you now.And you're connected to the things you value. And in our conversation and context, it is things and words like love, consciousness, creation, forgiveness, growth.You know, that kind of thing is part of ultimate life, is purpose, prosperity and joy. And I ask you how you're adding good to the world. So if you're living consciously and those are your values, you're doing two things.You're, you're improving your own self by being more in that state until you're vibrating into the world. And you use vibrating. Yeah, okay, that's woo woo speak.But the truth is, you know, somebody walks in a room and they have this negative spirit about them and it infects the room. People are on guard. It feels careful. There's an energy associated with that presence.On the other hand, someone walks in the room and they're full of truth and joy and love. And you can see it. And it's not ephemeral, it's real. That also affects the room. And so the reality of the ripples you just talked about is there.And that's exactly what adds good to the world.Because if I'm, I add that to the world, and if I'm in a place of power and love and growth, forgiveness and all the rest of those nice words, then that's what I'm adding in my vibrations.

Yeah, 100%.

So tell me, you mentioned a client earlier and you as a, as a, as a woman living consciously, intentionally, and being aware of those things, what is a client to you? What do you do? People come and they say, you know, fix me, or like what? Tell me more about your, your work, your client work.

Thank you. So what I'm doing Is there are.There are a lot of people in the world now who have been following a calling, maybe a spiritual calling, a deeply felt calling. And they've been following that calling for some time.And every now and again they reach a point where they feel like I'm being called to step deeper into that calling. I want to step deeper into that calling. I want to bring it more to life. Maybe I could do with some help with that. That's where I'm come in.And those people tend to be people who are very capable, very spiritual, very open, very evolved. And they do not want a standard coach who's going to come in and tell them what to do or what to think or get them to learn another modality.They want somebody like me who's been doing that kind of work for longer than I care to admit. And it's been through multiple reinventions and stepping deeper into my calling and all of those things multiple, multiple times.So I'm now very well placed to help those people step deeper into whatever their calling is. And how I do that, you know, that's a combination of sitting, talking with each other.Maybe we get in a room with some other people and we do some somatic movement, we do some breathing, we do some meditation, we do some more talking, we do some free drawing. I use all kinds of different modalities all over the years in order to. People talk a lot about nervous system regulation these days.

It's a big buzzword these days.

It is a big buzzword. And actually our whole nervous system is affected by and affects our thinking, our feeling, our energy, our movement, our creation.All those things are all affect each other. So if we're going to enhance all of those and nourish and feed all of those, we need to use all those different channels to do it.But we need to do it in an intelligent way so that we're not just traumatizing ourselves. It's leaping from one thing to the other going, oh my God, what's going on? I just want to leave, you know, it needs to be an enjoyable process.So, yeah, that's what I'm doing with people, you know, one to one and in small groups.

So I'm going to back up and ask a question. The words people use words. I remember many years ago, I was in a mastermind. There was this lady and she was just.She wanted people to step into their greatness and, you know, using that sort of buzzwords. And to me, I'll be honest, that all sounds like crap, even though I do that work and so do you.And I'm not saying it's bad work, I'm just saying using those hackneyed, worn out phrases have become completely trite. And so what I want to do is, and, but I believe in your work and mine, so don't hear that. And listeners, you don't hear that either.I want you to tell me as an example, what does it mean to have somebody come and say, this is what I've been doing and I want to step deeper into my calling. Those words, like what is stepping deeper into a calling look like?

Yeah. So what it looks like for each person is unique to them.

Right.

The thing that's in common between all those people is there's a feeling. And right now I'm sort of tuning into what that feeling is.Often that feeling is very often felt in the chest area, the heart area, and it's an actual physical sensation and it's a combination of like an appetite and a desire and an excitement. So it's a bit like that anticipatory feeling of something incredible is about, is trying to happen. Something is calling me. I'm feeling something.I'm feeling called, I'm feeling pushed, I'm feeling something. And I know I'm on the right path already.I know that I'm, you know, I'm on my path, I'm doing what I want to be doing, but I've got this energy in me which is feeling like I want to go deeper. There's some, it's almost like, you know, people talk about kind of step growth.You know, when you, you travel along, you go up a step, you travel along, you go up a step. Sometimes you're actually traveling upward on a gradient.And then you just, in, in you, you just feel you're about to make a leap, but you don't know where that's going to go. You just feel it. And I love you I'm talking about are very, very intuitive people or they wouldn't be doing what they're doing.So, you know, like, I believe you're intuitive. I'm intuitive that we, we listen to our intuition and we believe in it.So when we feel those feelings, we, we pay attention to it, you know, and sometimes those feelings are associated with a specific decision or a specific opportunity.You know, move house, merge with another business, take on a partner, you know, what might be a specific thing, but very often it's not a specific thing. It's just this felt sense that, oh, it's time for me to go to the next level. I have no idea what that is.I'd like to talk to someone who can understand me when I try and talk about that.

So that's fabulous. And you did a really, really good job of describing that anticipatory feeling and that yearning in a person. And I'm thinking of some examples.So, a year ago. I've been coaching now for not quite 20 years, but I felt like about last year, year or so ago, year and a half, maybe, that feeling.And for me, the action was, it came out of thinking about. It was, okay, I'm going to start.And I have the Ultimate Life University, and it has four schools, and these are the schools, and this is what they do. And the purpose of each one of those is just what you said, to help those who are seeking.And one of them is about books and writing books and helping them not only write the book, but turn that into a platform that they can use to spread their message and make money and teaching them how to do that and designing it. So that's an example that I thought of as you described, that. That anticipatory feeling and then turned into a thing.

Yes.

Right.

So that's an example where it turned into an actual thing. That's a perfect example, Kellen. So when you. When you did that. I know the answer already. I'm going to guess the answer already.Did you do it totally on your own, or did you have other people helping you?

Of course I have people helping me. I don't. My goal, as you know, is to reach 300 million people with the message of worth, identity, possibility, ownership, and sovereignty.And there's no way. This is why I like having guests like you and others who are about this same mission. Because my message isn't the only one that matters.Yours and yours and yours and yours. Because everybody's got their own voice and experience and yearning and ability to articulate and teach and lead and coach.And so, no, of course, I didn't even imagine to do that on my own.

Yeah. And sometimes someone will have that feeling, and it's obvious what the next step is and how to do it. And they've already got.You know, sometimes that's just the case. Other times they're feeling, do you know what?I want to talk to someone who's outside everybody I already know, or maybe they know me, but they're outside the system that I'm in because I want to sit down with them and just completely offload where I am with it and completely engage with them in a way that will help Me do something I otherwise wouldn't have done or the quality or the, the absolutely. The whole thing. And, and that's when people call me. It's such a privilege. I mean you're.What example you gave me, for example, let's say you had at that point contacted me and said that's where you were with it.I would have been very excited and we would have done whatever we need to do, which would have just added nothing from me, just another layer from you into it, you know. So thank you so much for giving that example because it brings it to life, I think for the listeners very differently from a kind of a theoretical.

Well, that's the thing because here's what I notice for me and for people that I coach, and I'm sure you do too. If they have an idea in their own self and they don't come talk to you and vomit all over your table, then they don't get your encouragement.They don't get you telling them do trust your intuition.Yes, it may seem overwhelming, but you know, you could do this or you could do that and the kind of both parsing and sharpening of next step possibilities. So they can choose and they also then will say, and I'm sure you've heard this too. Yeah, but this just happened.Yeah, but all the yabbits, you know, isn't that a me? Doesn't that mean I shouldn't some hardship.The IRS or whoever it is in England, you know, contacted you to assess a bill or it's like, ah, I can't do this now. You know, all these things that seem to show up when you're right at the verge of changing or improving. How you add good to the world.

Yes, exactly. I was talking to a client this morning and, and the client and you know, they checked in for the session, we started talking and I said, okay, great.So what's, what is coming through that you want to talk about? And they said, they said this is. I do a thing with my coaching clients where they get to record the session while we're doing the session.

Right.

And as one of their assignments is to watch it back after a couple of days, after they get another layer of learning from that.This person said watching themselves back on the video, they began to get this uncomfortable feeling when they were watching themselves back on the video that they didn't used to get. So we talked about it and what this feeling was, was a feeling of that way I'm expressing myself is not keeping up with who I am becoming.So that way of Expressing myself is lovely, but I'm someone more than that now, so how can I bring my expression up to date with where I am now? And it was very difficult for them to explain this because they'd never, you know, hit this experience before in the same way.And they explained it fully. And explained it fully. And I said, well, that experience is the experience of you reaching the edge of your range.And you want to go beyond your range, you want to spread your range. When you're right in the center of your range, you don't have that feeling. You feel fine, you feel relaxed, there's no discomfort.I said, that is a sign that you are really, really doing incredibly well. And they went, oh, I see what you mean. Good.

Well, you're very generous. Because sometimes people could look at how they're expressing myself and say, man, I don't even believe me. I can't believe I said that.I can't believe that's who I was. And so you said, well, you're doing fine and you want to go Bey. And that's true too. But I, I think often there's a, also a sense of arguing.You know, people that are arguing maybe for a limitation or they're making excuses for a thing and then they look at that and go, oh man, I can't believe I was, you know, arguing for that.

Right, that happens too. That happens too. But that's like that, that creates its own resolution and release in the moment, doesn't it?

Yes, it does.

So which, which is a beautiful self regulation thing that we can do for ourselves.

I loved your description of the, the, what you're, what you're feeling is who you were and who you want to be. That, that difference between who you are and you want to be.It's funny, I did a concert last night that I do once a month or so of original music and stories and one of the stories that I was talking about was that very thing about seeing something in a moment and realizing that you no longer fit in the life that you're in and you want to, you know, be. Be something more than that and having that feeling. So anyway, I thought about that as you said that.Well, so I want to know what you, I don't know if you set goals in terms of who you're reaching and, and, and that sort of thing. What is your plan? Like we're about halfway through the year. Like this episode's going to air right at the midpoint of the year.The laughter and what are you creating in your determination and desire to add good to the world, to spread the truth that you're talking about, of possibility. What are you about this year?

I'm. I'm currently. Because the last few years with my coaching work, I've been fairly passive. You know, I just.People have come towards me when they've come towards me or I've had a little sabbatical here or there, you know, so I've been very relaxed about it.But I've just recently started to boost it again because I've come to a new place where a lot of things have all come together within me in terms of where I am, who I am, what I'm offering, how I'm doing it. Because I've been doing coaching work for a very long time. Coaching and training and developmental work.It's got to be now nearly 50 years that I've been doing it.And so I've gone through a variety of periods like this where then there's been a shift and then there's been a light year or two and then another shift and that's. I'm currently in an upward trajectory with the coaching work.So I'm kind of opening a lot of things out to make myself more available and make that more possible. I've got my own podcast, which I'm so excited.I've just been invited, the show's just been invited into a network, a small independent network, and it's just joined on Monday and the downloads have just exponentially gone through the roof. I cannot believe it. So that's very, very exciting because that contributes so much more to so many more people.

Right.

And my freedom of spirit work, I've actually got this mission to educate and accredit people, to take my freedom of spirit modality out into the world themselves. So I'm running workshops, I'm teaching people to deliver one to one modules and I hope to then be teaching people to run the workshop itself.So that's a very. How can I put it? It's a simple but complicated methodology.When you engage with it, it feels simple and colorful and interesting and fun and very effective. It's got a lot of moving parts. So teaching it to people is quite complicated.

Well, if you're going to teach people your sovereign secret sauce and then have them go do this, you know, I mean, words like certification, licensing and all that sort of stuff comes into the picture.And if you have spent years, decades on this growth and evolution path of yourself and then you're going to try to teach somebody to do that, it's a sacred Transference. And we as business owners, when you think about the business side, we've got to get over the idea that somebody's ever going to be exactly like you.And we have to figure out what it looks like to be close enough so that they're available and quote, certified to do whatever it is that you want them to be doing.

Exactly. And so for years I've thought I want to be passing over more of what I can do.And then I would hit a roadblock of I can't pass over 50 years worth of skill to somebody.

No, you can't.

And also, who would want that? It's going to be indigestible.But this new thing out of this freedom of spirit modality that I started developing a couple of years ago is actually a, how can I put it?It's a bit like a recipe which when you learn the recipe or you can actually make a fantastic meal for everybody that everyone's going to enjoy, it's going to be wonderful for everybody.You haven't learned every recipe there is, but you've learned a lot about cooking, selecting the vegetables, laying the table for that particular recipe. So that's what I've done with this. It's a specific recipe that people can use and learn, which is learnable because it's limited in that way.But in the process of learning it and putting it into practice, they are developing all sorts of aspects of themselves as they do it. I mean, I've got a woman at the moment who's learning the one to one freedom of spirit section. She's never been a practitioner before.She's a CEO, she's a high level senior exec and she wanted, she's worked with me for years. She wanted to do this to increase, develop her capacity to encourage people to be sovereign. That's what she wanted to do.She didn't want to become a practitioner. We had a briefing, a debrief meeting the other day.She said, catherine, the thing I, that me and my clients are as astonished as each other at how much they get out of each session. And she goes, I'm astonished. She goes, I'm astonished how much I get out of delivering the session.They're astonished about how much they get out of receiving the session. So, and that is touching something in her and in the people she's working with.But it's relatively straightforward for me to teach it to her because I've distilled something down rather than trying to teach everything about what I can do.

You used a word a while ago And I. It comes to mind again as you describe that process of transference and that is embodiment. It's one thing to teach a person.Let's go back to the recipe, because my wife loves cooking. And so in the background, lots of times, there's one of 50 million cooking shows on as just sort of broadcasting to nobody in the living room. Right.But what I, you know, it's one thing to have a recipe and exact instructions about how to do it, and it's another thing to have a. And someone try to follow it.And it's another thing to have someone who is committed to excellence and who is aware that their most powerful stance from which they can prepare this recipe is, I am a chef, the embodiment, which is the word of the deliverer.And so I suspect the thing that your client is getting out of this is this discovery of her own growth and becoming more embodied in the truth that is contained in the recipe. Because what I see is the only thing you or me, we have to teach is what we are.And if we do not embody the truths that we teach, we don't have any power.And so her ability to do that better and better is directly in what she's feeling is the increase in her own embodiment of that system as she teaches it.

Precisely. Right. Yeah. And she's just amazed at the effect.I mean, before they learn this recipe, they have to come and do an intensive weekend with me first, which takes them to a completely different place in relationship to freedom of spirit. So they have to do that, and then they have to have a break, and then they have to do an assignment and then they can learn this thing.

Right.

You know, because otherwise, well, as you say, it would just. Wouldn't work otherwise. They've. They've got to have. I think of it as, they've. They've. They found.I think of freedom of spirit as a golden flame burning inside us. And we can actually pay more attention to that golden flame, and we can feed it with light and love, and we can allow it to diffuse our entire body.We can allow that connection with that. But it's easy to say that. And it took me a long time to design this workshop.Took me about five months to design it, because I thought in two days I've got to create the essence of what it's taken me over many decades. So it is quite an intense experience.

And it is as it needs to be.

Yeah, yeah.

Are you. Are you.As you designed this one with the intention of getting people who Are practitioners who are able to use it, whether it's with their team in a company or whether it's as a practitioner. Do you, do you have like. Obviously you. Do you have a course?I don't know, maybe you wrote a, a book about freedom of spirit or some other way to, to codify or communicate that doctrine and practice. Are you planning to have it be like large scale? Or is this something somebody has to come and do one at a time?So you might end up with half a dozen people in the universe, or is your intent to do dozens or hundreds of that kind of certifying?

Last time someone asked me that question and they said, how many people do you want to be out there delivering freedom of spirit? I said a hundred.

A hundred.

Now, I didn't sensibly come up with that. That was just what, just what came into my head. I know that if there were a hundred people doing that, it would make a very big difference.But I also know I would then need to be training trainers to train those sorts of people, you know, so because the, the training for this has to be done in small groups and one to one, it can't be done in big groups because it's so intimate.

Yeah.

But can be scaled in the sense of then training trainers over time.So I, what I foresee is that at some point someone or some people will take this over from me, you know, while I still remember who I am and who they are. You know what, I'm still right with us, you know, compass mentors. But I.And how, how far, how long that takes and how far I can take it before that happens? I don't know.

So I want to open this up now to. I'd ask some specific questions and you give them good answers and good thoughts and stuff.What, what have I not asked you that you want to talk about around anything in terms of what you're doing or what you want. Just what would you like to add to this conversation that we haven't touched on?

Thank you. I'd like to say something that relates back to the very first thing we talked about. Bad stuff going on. Years and years ago.I trained to teach five Rhythms dance. Have you heard of that?

Five Rhythms dance?

No. It's a conscious dance. Meditation dance modality. Okay. So I trained to teach that.And, and I was then out there running workshops and classes and inviting people in. And I would say a large proportion of people would say, oh, I can't dance. I thought that's interesting. Why do all these people.And also whenever they show up, they walk on the dance floor, they're really self conscious. Within 10 minutes they're dancing. But you know, they're. It might look weird, but they're doing it and they're having a wonderful time.So I thought, why do people think they can't dance? And I started asking people and they gave me all these answers and answers and answers and answers.And the one that's relevant for this was the person who said to me, I can't dance because there are people suffering in the world. And she meant it. And what was really surreal about it in that moment was she was a massage therapist. And at the time, she was giving me a massage.So she thought it was all right for me to have a massage even though there's miserable people in the world.She thought it was okay for her to give me a massage and for me to pay her for it, but she didn't think it was okay for her to dance and enjoy herself because people are miserable.

You know, that's. That is a really interesting point because it goes to what are you adding to the world? So I did.I choose to remain stoic and focused and miserable, as it were, or neutral, even. Neutral. And to miserable. So joyful, neutral, miserable. I'm going to stay in this half because somebody out there suffering.And so what I'm adding to the world is somewhere between neutrality and misery by my energetic being. And what we talked about earlier is what you could make yourself without hurting those people who are already suffering.Adding somewhere between neutral and joyful or ecstatic or whatever. You could add that energy to the world if.And it will matter if you realize that that ripple effect and vibration actually adds something and matters.

Yeah. I mean, there was a beautiful little video on Facebook recently. I don't know if you saw it where. Somewhere in the Middle East. I forget where it was.There was a room full of hundreds, maybe hundreds of people, and they were all being taught to sing this song called One Day by Matiss. Yahoo. Do you know it? Have you heard of it?

No, I don't.

Okay. He's a New York Jew who sings reggae.

Okay.

Beautiful musician. This song One Day is about letting go of war. Let's do that.And in this room, all these people learned the song and then they all sang it together in English, Hebrew, Arabic, and I think maybe something else. And it was so moving. And these were just ordinary people. Somewhere off in the Middle east, someone had organized this.Someone had brought all these people together and the joy in that room. And there were tears.But the joy of companionship, community, giving voice, that somatic experience of the breath and the voice, which is so powerful and beautiful. And that's an example of. There are things, there are things we can do that are beautifully joyful for us.And I, I reckon a lot of people who saw that video will have been affected positively by that. No doubtful thing.

I directed a lot of, I have directed a lot of choirs over the years.Large ones, small ones, ten people, a thousand people, and you'd be surprised, like, I can't dance, I can't sing, and my answer is, okay, cool, we need some of those too. So just come in. And of course they all figure out that that's not true.And then they, and then they not only figure out that it's not true, then they get to choose to be joyfully infected by the, you know, by, by the, by the energy of that. So tell now, we need to know for sure where to find you.So I'd like you to tell everybody if they want to have more Catherine, and they want to learn about you and the free spirit and whatever else books your podcast, tell everybody where to find all that stuff so they can get some more Catherine.

Excellent. If they go to Beingspace World, so that's B, E I N G S P A C E dot W O R L D. Everything is represented there and you can dive into that.And also my contact details are there and I'm always happy to talk to people. If you just call me on WhatsApp, I will always have a conversation with you because for me that's always a wonderful thing.

Conversations, whether it's in little groups or one at a time, is really how we make things happen. Words have power, words carry truth and energy and they also carry other things. But we know they carry truth and energy. And so that is lovely.It is true. Being Space Dot World. Catherine, this is joyful.Thank you for sharing your love, your heart, your methods, your talking and adding good to the world in this space that we've had together.

Thank you and the same to you, sir.

You are just absolutely welcome listeners. I want to recommend to you.You know, Catherine's got a few minutes doing this and she talked about the several evolutions of her own growth step changes and leap changes and gradient changes and whatever. But point is, it's an upward progress and it's replete with setbacks and tip overs and all the rest.And the choice that you have, as she has so beautifully taught us, is to move forward anyway. Recognize your capability, your divinity, your possibility and your ability to create your ultimate life.

Open your heart. And this time around, right here, right.

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